Redundancy and resignation issue

Money_saving_maniac

The guy resigned, so why would the company pay him to leave??

Kynthia

James_edge wrote: »

Well to use an analogy: A hot dog stand is giving away free hot dogs, 9 people queue up. after giving out 8 hot dogs they announce to the last guy that they are out of free hot dogs. Person 9 is sad he missed out and walks off. As soon as he is gone the hot dog stand announces more free hot dogs.

Dirty and underhanded, if it was a group of people they cheated out of the redundancy they would have a defense but as it was just one guy they screwed over it kind of makes it obvious what they were doing.

You don't seem to understand what voluntary redundancy is. A company decides it needs to reduce it's headcount to save money or believes it has too many people in a certain field/area of the business. It offers voluntary redundancy so that it can pick and choose who goes and because the people want to go it has less of an impact on morale. So the people who would be happy to go apply and then the company chooses those that are the cheapest or those that don't have the skills/experience they are looking to retain.


Your friend was turned down because perhaps others were cheaper or he had skills/experience they wanted to keep. The company later realised they still needed to lose more staff and asked for more volunteers. If your friend had been eligible again he might still have been turned down as there still might have been others who were cheaper or he still had the skills/experience they wanted to keep. There is nothing unfair in this and how would it be good business sense to give money to someone who is already leaving?

p00hsticks

James_edge wrote: »

Well to use an analogy: A hot dog stand is giving away free hot dogs, 9 people queue up. after giving out 8 hot dogs they announce to the last guy that they are out of free hot dogs. Person 9 is sad he missed out and walks off. As soon as he is gone the hot dog stand announces more free hot dogs.

It's not a very good analogy in the first place, but if you want to use it then a better version would be...

A hot dog stand is giving away free hot dogs, 10 people queue up. after giving out 8 hot dogs they announce to the last two guys that they are out of free hot dogs for the moment. Person 9 is sad he missed out and walks off. Person 10 decides to hang around. As soon as person 9 is gone the hot dog stand announces more free hot dogs. Person 9 misses out on a hot dog, but person 10 gets one.

Ozzuk

I'm hungry.

martinsurrey

Ozzuk wrote: »

I'm hungry.

Hi Hungry, I'm Martin.

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staple28

The hot do thing is a rubbish analogy anyway. It would be more like, he had a hot dog in one hand (job) and wanted another free one (money) but there were no free ones left so he put the one he already had in the bin, cutting his nose off to spite his face!

TBagpuss

Staple is right.

Rudundancy means you lose your job.
You get some money to compensate you for losing your job.
Your friend was turned down for voluntary redundancy, so he got to keep his job, and to contiinue getting paid.
He then chose to resign. Unless he is a comlete idiot, he presumably did so because he had found a new job, so he still has a job and till getting paid.
Why on earth would anyoneexpect to get paid by their (ex) employer in that situation?

It's fairly common when a company is having to make people redunadnt to ask more than once. If they ask or colunteers and get fewer than they need, or fewer than they need in the right departments, they may ask a second time.

If they don't get enough volunteers, they may then have to make compulsory redundancies.

There is nothing underhand or immoral about it, it allows workers who would like to leave to do so on good terms, (unsually with a better package than if they were selected for compulsory redundancy) it's better for morlae, both for those who stay and those who go, and the poor sods who have to try to make the decisions.

If your riend left his job in a snitt becaue he didn't get what he wanted then he is a fool, and has only himself to blame if he has, in doing so, left himself worse off than if he had stayed in his job.