Can I ask for installation costs to be refunded?

Rotti

London50 wrote: »

Just because you are either not able or do not understand how a simple wiring job is done or have the money to get some {hopefully} "qualified" person in to do it does not mean that any advise given here is from an "armchair"electrician. My oldest son is qualified and has stated that any basic D.I.Yer can do a simple job like that without any qualifacations or piece of paper stating a "pass" in "xyz"

I am perfectly able on both fronts thank you but would still not be advising any layman to mess with electrics, especially up a ladder outdoors. My younger son has a degree in chemistry from Oxford but I have not yet perfected the atom bomb!:)

cattermole

wealdroam wrote: »

It really doesn't matter what the scenario is concerning the installation of the first lamp, because the OP told us in the original post that the work was done by an electrician.

So that means if it needed building regs it has been signed off then does it? Not necessarily, we cannot assume that. There are plenty of people out there doing minor electrical work that do not get stuff signed off.

As I suggested earlier, swapping an existing fitting with an identical replacement is a very simple job requiring many fewer skills that the original installation:

Of course, no-one should attempt any job, especially where electricity is involved, when they feel uncomfortable or unsure about it.

Exactly and I think armchair advice from some posters on what to do electrically is quite frankly totally irresponsible. The cost of swapping it over from an electrician will be proportionate and the actual cost, obviously not the same as the original cost and may be a small amount.

However if two visits are involved it will be considerably higher as per the posters original query. Which is why I suggested getting them to agree based on photos to send a replacement in advance of sending faulty lamp back (if still required) to save costs.

cattermole

Rotti wrote: »

I am perfectly able on both fronts thank you but would still not be advising any layman to mess with electrics, especially up a ladder outdoors. My younger son has a degree in chemistry from Oxford but I have not yet perfected the atom bomb!:)

Absolutely, I seriously cannot believe people are telling someone what to do with electrics in detail on a general forum on "consumer rights".

wealdroam

cattermole wrote: »

wealdroam wrote: »

It really doesn't matter what the scenario is concerning the installation of the first lamp, because the OP told us in the original post that the work was done by an electrician.

So that means if it needed building regs it has been signed off then does it? Not necessarily, we cannot assume that. There are plenty of people out there doing minor electrical work that do not get stuff signed off.


As I suggested earlier, swapping an existing fitting with an identical replacement is a very simple job requiring many fewer skills that the original installation:

Of course, no-one should attempt any job, especially where electricity is involved, when they feel uncomfortable or unsure about it.

Exactly and I think armchair advice from some posters on what to do electrically is quite frankly totally irresponsible.

I'm disappointed to see that extra paragraph added into your quote of my earlier post.

Unfortunately that extra bit is not completely right.

In my book an electrician is a qualified tradesman who is authorised to self certify his work.

All "people out there doing minor electrical work that do not get stuff signed off" do not need to be electricians.

And that is just confirming the point that "minor electrical work" does not need any "signing off" anyway.

We have been told that the original installation was done by an electrician, so I am finding it difficult to understand your point.

London50

cattermole wrote: »

Absolutely, I seriously cannot believe people are telling someone what to do with electrics in detail on a general forum on "consumer rights".

Well at least if anyone else needs to do that job they will have the full instructions without having to ask the same question again:p

London50

Rotti wrote: »

I am perfectly able on both fronts thank you but would still not be advising any layman to mess with electrics, especially up a ladder outdoors. My younger son has a degree in chemistry from Oxford but I have not yet perfected the atom bomb!:)

Perhaps you need to ask him the details then, who knows it could be handy in the future if you do not like people like myself giving simple instructions on a wiring job:p

cattermole

wealdroam wrote: »

I'm disappointed to see that extra paragraph added into your quote of my earlier post.

Unfortunately that extra bit is not completely right.

In my book an electrician is a qualified tradesman who is authorised to self certify his work.

All "people out there doing minor electrical work that do not get stuff signed off" do not need to be electricians.

And that is just confirming the point that "minor electrical work" does not need any "signing off" anyway.

We have been told that the original installation was done by an electrician, so I am finding it difficult to understand your point.

Sorry the quoting got muddled up.

It is still a relatively "minor" job is what I meant i.e. not a full re-wire and jobs like this do get done by people when they are notifiable who are not qualified and authorized to do them. Particularly when the building regs change all the time, something someone might had done 15 years ago and may have been doing for years, they can no longer do with about the appropriate qualifications.

I only mentioned to the OP it might be worth checking if it was notifiable and if so had it been done, if it has then the Electrician will have advised accordingly and she get the appropriate paperwork or already have it, so not a problem.

I looked at a house recently, that had a new consumer board fitted and some re-wiring carried out by a "friend" no paperwork nothing and apparently he was a qualified electrician, it was done two years ago!! Needless to say we didn't go back for a second viewing!

I think it is a little naive to believe all notifiable electrical work, of a minor or major nature, is all being notified or done by suitably qualified people, whether there are described as "electricians" or not.

Oh and btw a "new" outside lighting installation from the mains is notifiable.