Dodgy Dealer? HELP!!!

dannyrst

motorguy wrote: »

No. There is no "6 months". If you had a gearbox failure and the dealer couldnt prove it wasnt there at the time of sale, you "should" be covered under the SOGA.

Also, "faults" are very difficult from wear and tear. A fault would be due to a manufacturing fault that caused the part to fail prematurely.

Also, its not up to you as a buyer to prove it was there at the point of sale, its up to the seller to prove it wasnt.

You have 6 months from purchase where the seller has to prove that the issue wasn't there when you bought it. After that, you have to prove that the issue was there at the point of purchase.

motorguy

dannyrst wrote: »

You have 6 months from purchase where the seller has to prove that the issue wasn't there when you bought it. After that, you have to prove that the issue was there at the point of purchase.

Actually, you're right on that point. Apologies

dannyrst

motorguy wrote: »

Actually, you're right on that point. Apologies

No problem. That was what I meant but didn't make it very clear in my post. :beer:

motorguy

dannyrst wrote: »

No problem. That was what I meant but didn't make it very clear in my post. :beer:

No probs - good to get it cleared up

:beer:

cavyslave

Thanks Paul, I do understand I've been stupid and should have done more checks on the car before purchase. And I know £1500 isn't a lot of money to some people but it is to me and I guess I was just naive about the whole MOT thing because my own car has always passed.

Just looking at the failure notice now and it failed on the road springs, the ball joint and the track rod end, and advisories were exhaust has minor leak of exhaust gasses and tyre worn close to the legal limit near side front. I know for a fact he said he put 4 new tyres on because I have it written down. I'm guessing it is possible for a new tyre to wear down to the legal limit in 3 months then?

There's nothing I can do then seemingly, just be more wary next time I go to buy a car and not be so trusting of people.

motorguy

cavyslave wrote: »

Thanks Paul, I do understand I've been stupid and should have done more checks on the car before purchase. And I know £1500 isn't a lot of money to some people but it is to me and I guess I was just naive about the whole MOT thing because my own car has always passed.

Just looking at the failure notice now and it failed on the road springs, the ball joint and the track rod end, and advisories were exhaust has minor leak of exhaust gasses and tyre worn close to the legal limit near side front. I know for a fact he said he put 4 new tyres on because I have it written down. I'm guessing it is possible for a new tyre to wear down to the legal limit in 3 months then?

There's nothing I can do then seemingly, just be more wary next time I go to buy a car and not be so trusting of people.

All those things you'd definitely want to get corrected. Any scope to see if he'll split the cost with you as its not long since you got it? (no harm in asking?)

IF the track rod end was worn it "could" have worn the inside edge of the tyre but i'd put him over it. If he put four new tyres on they should all be the same brand and type and still otherwise be relatively new.

And oh - it does happen. I'd describe myself as experienced when it comes to cars but about £500 of (in fairness cosmetic) issues got past me on the car i bought (bought it in the rain), along with quite badly worn discs and pads. All stupidity on my part and i should have picked up on it.

cavyslave

Thank you for being so understanding Paul. I feel so stupid and gullible and I wish my hubby was still here because he was a driving instructor and knew cars inside and out. I guess it all,goes back to that old saying Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware

motorguy

cavyslave wrote: »

Thank you for being so understanding Paul. I feel so stupid and gullible and I wish my hubby was still here because he was a driving instructor and knew cars inside and out. I guess it all,goes back to that old saying Caveat Emptor - Let the buyer beware

Sorry for your loss and i am sure it has been a difficult time for both you and your son with him learning to drive and dad not there

Hope the car settles down and you get it sorted

arcon5

Nothing here sounds worthy of 'dodgy dealer'. They sorted the engine management problem. ow two months later you've discovered owning a car consists of buying the car, then maintaining it, not just the initial outlay then its over.

welfayre

cavyslave wrote: »

Yes, I'm sure he would have considered them worthy of failure if I had presented the car at his garage. I've known him over 20 years and I trust him more than I would a used car dealer I'd never met before.

Fixed the faulty check engine light? If you had paid almost £1500 for your son's first car, a car that you believed to be safe and roadworthy, would you expect to be paying out for a repair on it after one day of ownership? Damn right he fixed the check engine light!

Yes I was foolish, I should have asked to see the previous MOT before parting with the cash, I should have questioned him when he told me he'd had all the advisories fixed from that previous MOT, I should have got an independent person to check the car before buying it, but I didn't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing...

Maybe I'm too trusting and gullible? Maybe he "saw me coming" - a mum proud that her son had passed his driving test first time at age 17, and excited about buying him his first car? (which took a lot of saving up as I am a widow) Maybe next time I won't be so bloody stupid?

Now I do not have the money for these repairs at the moment, I was not expecting the car to fail the MOT so spectacularly after just 12 weeks of owning it. So my son is now without a vehicle, I'm still having to pay £114 per month insurance plus road tax, and the car is sitting outside my house going nowhere. Yes, I'm an idiot I know, but I came here to ask for advice, which the first member kindly gave me. I do not need to be reminded how foolish I've been or to have snipey comments made about my wording on the post. I feel bad enough as it is, you don't have to rub salt in the wounds just for the hell of it.

My apologies if I came across as snipey or that you felt I having a go, that wasn't the intention.

Going forward if you can't get the dealer to cover some of the costs, as suggested in a previous comment,could you get your friend to do the repairs as a homer? Or if he can't get him to buy the parts for you for trade price?

Also be aware that you only have 10 working days to have the repairs carried out and the car retested. Otherwise you could incur a second test fee.