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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    In effect?

    You mean, being forced, by legislation?

    And it's not even the same model. Lidl's have gone for the Living Wage Foundation suggestions.

    Sports Direct etc will do the bare minimum to stay within the law. Indeed, they have suggested they will hire younger people to avoid the living wage. So I guess you could spin that as good for youth employment?

    The Lidl model is to employ fewer people who are above average in their field and pay them above average wages for the job. The average and below average do the same jobs (but less well) for Tesco and Sports Direct.

    If Tesco and Sports Direct adopt the same model the below average will be out of a job because by definition there are only so many above average people to go around.

    Of course the consumer will decide whether they're willing to pay the higher wages because I guarantee Lidl won't be funding this pay rise from their margin.
  • PixelPound
    PixelPound Posts: 3,059 Forumite
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    The Unit of turnover basically translates to saying retailers tend to base staff levels on turnover, and I guess Lidl have less. So, people who go to work there may have a heavier workload, but it's their choice - work somewhere that pays more and feel you've earn it or somewhere where work is less stressful and get paid less.
  • Good news for the staff as long as any other staff "benefits", (are there any?) aren't cut to make up the difference!

    I am not too convinced this is a "goodness of their hearts" move though. They and similar companies are hacking mercilessly away at the competitors' market share - what better a plan than to raise their own public image while at the same time possibly fostering discontent among the staff of the competition?

    Just sayin' :whistle:

    WR
  • Plus the more successful lidl are the more tesco et al suffer and make cuts accordingly
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Corbyn should nationalise shopping
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 18 September 2015 at 8:44PM
    wotsthat wrote: »
    The Lidl model is to employ fewer people who are above average in their field

    Above average shelf stackers and checkout operators?

    Righty-o.

    How do you measure all of this by the way?

    Also, Lidl have specifically stated prices will not go up as a result of this pay rise. As you suggesting they are liars now too?

    Have you considered they may well be able to do all of this as they do not have shareholders to feed?
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Above average shelf stackers and checkout operators?

    Righty-o.

    Yes that's right.

    The average Aldi staff member merchandises dramatically more stock than the average Tesco worker. The average checkout operator takes more cash than the average Tesco checkout operator.

    If everyone decides to do their shopping at Aldi and they have less staff per unit turnover then less people will be employed in the grocery sector. It's a fairly simple thought experiment.
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    Yes that's right.

    The average Aldi staff member merchandises dramatically more stock than the average Tesco worker. The average checkout operator takes more cash than the average Tesco checkout operator.

    Any evidence?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Any evidence?

    Go to your local Aldi and time them.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 18 September 2015 at 10:49PM
    Generali wrote: »
    Go to your local Aldi and time them.

    Yer, I mean, real evidence of the statements made.

    Unless "it's what I think" is good enough now?
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