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Clock-in attendance system

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  • whitegoods_engineer
    whitegoods_engineer Posts: 636 Forumite
    edited 18 September 2015 at 10:28AM
    Let's get this straight!

    If you arrive at your place of work to clock in, ie, operating your employer's clocking in equipment which enables them a cheap and easy way to monitor you, the employee, then yes, you have started work at that point!

    It's a bit like saying a pilot shouldn't be paid for doing his pre-flight checks as he isn't yet doing his main job which is flying the plane.

    No, You've arrived at your place of work and clocked in : You're now at work and if you clock in at your work start time, that's it!

    Try saying to your manager " Will you allow me an extra 10 minutes each way for lunch breaks?" for example, since presumably, the walk to the canteen means your lunch break doesn't start until you reach there. I bet he'll disagree with that but this is exactly the same logic being used to get an extra 20 minutes a day out of you for nothing. Thats more than an hour and a half unpaid per week!

    Employers will always try it on.

    Remember, you do not have to operate company equipment in your own time, only at the point at which the company is paying you to do this. In this example, the company equipment you are being told to utilise is their clocking in equipment which ironically timestamps your start of work.

    You do not have to operate work equipment until you are being paid to do so.

    When you clock out, you have operated the company equipment at the end of your working hours for which you are being paid, so once you've clocked out, you're now on YOUR time!

    Stand up to it, show them your written contract and tell tham that they can solve the problem by installing a clocking in terminal at YOUR place of work.
  • London50
    London50 Posts: 1,850 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Podge52 wrote: »
    The thread is about clocking times, it's not about being paid to travel to work from your front door so I'm not sure why you have posted the bolded part of your post.

    While I agree that it started off being about clocking at work it seems that some give the feeling that they should be paid for as many hours as they can get working or not so I therefore conclude that some feel they should be paid for travel time as well and as I have said if you are not at your station you are not working so be it from the clocking in machine or leaving your front door.
  • stevemLS
    stevemLS Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    If you have to go past the clock machine to get to work there is no issue.

    if the position of the machine results in you having to take a detour then the excess time would be work time.
    Allthough the employer can fix that by only having one way in past the clock machine.

    Setting up machines , log in to computers is work time.
    (may be unpaid but is covered by NMW)

    Come then, give us the authority for this nonsense. Caselaw perhaps?

    No, didn't think so.
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