How panic-y have you got ?

Pagg

But won't the market just do again what it did in the last few days, in anticipation of a Fed raise? Hard to justify an increase when the market is heading south.

talexuser

That implication is that rates can't rise because of fear of markets falling. Rates will rise when authorities reckon banks have refinanced themselves safely, the problem is that meanwhile debt has mushroomed alarmingly since the crash to provide the semi-command economy growth.

Glen_Clark

According to Shelter, Osborne's 'Help to Buy' has increased the average house price by over £8k.
Its also increased the taxpayer's debts. With Britain and America's frightening level of debt, and Britain's dependence on high house prices to avoid negative equity, its hard to see either raising interest rates of their own volition. Just talking of it but putting it off as long as they can, as they have been doing for several years now.

bottleandahalf

Here we go again.

dunstonh

bottleandahalf wrote: »

Here we go again.

Thats the spirit.

Freecall

dunstonh wrote: »

Thats the spirit.

Thinking of spirits (particularly those that come in a bottle), don't forget the Santa rally is just around the corner.

As Monty Python says, always look on the bright side....

:beer:

Thrugelmir

talexuser wrote: »

That implication is that rates can't rise because of fear of markets falling. Rates will rise when authorities reckon banks have refinanced themselves safely, the problem is that meanwhile debt has mushroomed alarmingly since the crash to provide the semi-command economy growth.

Interest rates aren't dependent just on central banks. At a point the market may well start to adjust.

cisamcgu

bottleandahalf wrote: »

Here we go again.

Apologies if this has been asked before - it was meant to be a thread about moments of panic in the past, not about if it time to panic now

Kendall80

cisamcgu wrote: »

Apologies if this has been asked before - it was meant to be a thread about moments of panic in the past, not about if it time to panic now

The moment referred to is indeed now in the past. 3.5% daily swings in europe and similar in the UK. Ugly numbers.

Herbalus

I started 'investing' (workplace pension into passive global equities) in April this year. My employer has a handy little app that shows the price, and it's tanked quite considerably since April. Psychologically it's irritating, as the pension I can access in 40 years is losing value, even though logically it means this month's contribution buys more than last months