Travelling to Work is work.......

Legacy_user

.....if you are a mobile worker

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34210002

A lot of employers aren't going to be happy with that. It could drop some people below NMW

dawyldthing

Nothing will happen about it. It's a bit like us carers and support workers that gets paid 3 hours or so wages for a 9 hour sleep in which some places and there was some judgement to say it should be paid normally but nothing happens 'as they can't afford it'

Oldfatgrumpy

This is such a big change in employers' obligations to their mobile employees, I'd have expected this to be a major discussion going into a dozen pages by now. Odd.

ACG

Read the full article, its unlikely anything will change in the UK.

Mr Glyn also said there had been much speculation that this ruling could allow workers on the national minimum wage to claim more money for the time they spend getting to work.But he said this would not be the case.

"The national minimum wage is a UK right, it is not a European right. There's no European right to a national minimum wage.

"The minimum wage regulations in the UK do not count as work travel from home or to any workplace," he said.

System

Mr Glyn doesn't understand that as travel to the first appointment is classed as work time then for those on NMW that time must be paid at the NMW.

The employer has a choice, pay the additional travel time to allow the worker to do their original time at the workface or have reduced time at the workface as the worker doesn't have to leave home until his shift start time and get back home at end of shift time.

ghostfinder

this is really interesting, been expecting this

i usually leave home around 7:30 and get back about 18:30, 1-1.30 hour to travel to my first job and the same to come home at the end of the day.

wonder how this will change ?

shortcrust

!!!!!! wrote: »

Mr Glyn doesn't understand that as travel to the first appointment is classed as work time then for those on NMW that time must be paid at the NMW.

The employer has a choice, pay the additional travel time to allow the worker to do their original time at the workface or have reduced time at the workface as the worker doesn't have to leave home until his shift start time and get back home at end of shift time.

It may give more money to people who are paid by the hour, but the point he's making is that it won't automatically help people who are salaried at NMW. The extra travelling hours won't be factored into the calculations.

It doesn't quite make sense to me. What about people like myself who have an office base but don't start there in the morning? I travel straight to appointments in the morning and end up at the office towards the end of the day. Sometimes I have to travel 10 mins first thing, sometimes 90 (to get somewhere in the same city - stupid rush hour...). Why does the existence of a fixed base make my morning travel different from those without?

DandelionPatrol

shortcrust wrote: »

Why does the existence of a fixed base make my morning travel different from those without?

You would have to read the ruling - it may actually apply to you as a H&S ruling, particularly if your first appointment is further away than your regular place of work.

boliston

I am totally in favour of this rule as "travel to work" time is decided purely by how far an employee decides to live from their workplace but "travel to first appointment/travel from last appointment" is something only the employer has control over.

shortcrust

DandelionPatrol wrote: »

You would have to read the ruling - it may actually apply to you as a H&S ruling, particularly if your first appointment is further away than your regular place of work.

Interesting! I'm really just curious rather than aggrieved. I manage my own diary and could start at the office at 9am if I wanted to. I'd just get a lot less done and would be much more stressed!

Carl31

Surely, if anything, this will at least mean mileage can be claimed from home to the first appointment/client, which wasn't possible before