Asked to move out by landlord - now being let out again!

franklee

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

There's honestly nothing extreme about suggesting that reasonable people move out of rented accommodation when given proper notice. it's what 99% of people do.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser this point would be valid for some types of tenancy but not for assured shorthold tenancies due to the legislation that covers these. Suggest you really do try asking on landlordzone as if you hear it from landlords themselves perhaps you will believe it. I've seen the question on there many a time and what the regulars are likely to say is that the section 21 notice is not a notice to quit. Some even go so far as to say the tenant is wrong to leave without serving their own one periods notice even if a section 21 notice has been served. I don't quite agree with all of the last point as I think the tenant can leave at the end of the section 21 notice period without serving their own notice.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

We are not discussing section 21. We have no idea what the original case is here. The person was asked to leave and did; we don't know how and it really wasn't relevant. For anyone's initial reaction to be trying to tell them they should have waited for bailiffs, regardless of their own wishes or situation, is absurd and unreasonable.

Guest101

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

That advice is given to tenants in situation where moving out presents a difficulty. That is a tiny minority of cases. There as no suggestion that moving out presented any difficulty to the original poster yet he was still advised he should have waited for bailiffs to arrive despite that having no relevance to his question. Do you or do you not think that it is unreasonable to assume that this should be every tenant's default behaviour?

I think you'd be surprised about how many tenants struggle when given notice, especially in this day and age.

Personally I dont think it's unreasonable at all. The laws were passed with a reason, and the 'default' position should the minimum required by law.

If the tenant has had a good landlord, they may feel like being more accomodating. (incentivise the LL). However it should be seen are a real positive if the tenant complies with the LLs request, rather than a negative if they dont.

Guest101

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

We are not discussing section 21. We have no idea what the original case is here. The person was asked to leave and did; we don't know how and it really wasn't relevant. For anyone's initial reaction to be trying to tell them they should have waited for bailiffs, regardless of their own wishes or situation, is absurd and unreasonable.

In the future, would you mind added: 'In my opinion', otherwise the tone with which you write becomes quite aggressive and overbearing.

Thanks

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Guest101 wrote: »

In the future, would you mind added: 'In my opinion', otherwise the tone with which you write becomes quite aggressive and overbearing.

Thanks

I generally express my own opinion; it's a given. I don't feel any more need to clog up the world with unnecessary words than I do to clog it up with unnecessary court action.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Guest101 wrote: »

I think you'd be surprised about how many tenants struggle when given notice, especially in this day and age.

Personally I dont think it's unreasonable at all. The laws were passed with a reason, and the 'default' position should the minimum required by law.

If the tenant has had a good landlord, they may feel like being more accomodating. (incentivise the LL). However it should be seen are a real positive if the tenant complies with the LLs request, rather than a negative if they dont.

Again, the "minimum required by law" if you hire a man to build you a wall is that you eventually pay him after he has taken you to small claims court. That doesn't make it reasonable. As you cannot see this, I will not say it again.

mrginge

Guest101 wrote: »

Whoa there, stop a second and re-read it:

This is typical of the type of comment that contributes to giving landlords a bad name.

Doesnt matter if it is a landlord or not. That is a typical type of comment that contributes to giving landlords a bad name. It just is, whether it s a comment from a landlord, or a tenant, or a chap in a pub.

The original comment:
Or you can just be a normal human being and find a new place to rent when the owner of the house you were living in decides he wants it back.

Suggests:
1: It's abnormal for a tenant to use the rights given to them by law
2: that the owners rights override that of the tenant
3: that the landlord retains all the decision making powers

- Makes landlords out to be pretty bad....

Much as I enjoy reading your banal ramblings, it would have been nice if you hadn't just responded in a way that exactly proved my point.

We all know you hate landlords, you don't need to make up reasons to justify it.

Guest101

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Again, the "minimum required by law" if you hire a man to build you a wall is that you eventually pay him after he has taken you to small claims court. That doesn't make it reasonable. As you cannot see this, I will not say it again.

The adult version of sticking fingers in your ears and shouting 'la la la'?

I have replied to this already and explained that tenancies are governed by specific laws, different from sale of goods and services.

Your example doesnt fit.

Guest101

mrginge wrote: »

Much as I enjoy reading your banal ramblings, it would have been nice if you hadn't just responded in a way that exactly proved my point.

We all know you hate landlords, you don't need to make up reasons to justify it.

Are you feeling ok? - I was actually saying that (in a round about way) most landlords are ok, and a minority with such a view give the rest a bad name.

I dont hate landlords at all, I strongly dislike landlords who ignore their responsibilities and act superior to the tenants. Bu on the whole I have no problem with LLs (as a general view)

mrginge

Guest101 wrote: »

I strongly dislike landlords

This is typical of the type of comments that contribute to giving tenants a bad name.