UKPC Fines

Shippo84

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could assist me. I have recently received 3 separate parking tickets from UKPC this week whilst parking in my allocated parking bay at my block of flats. Each ticket states that I did not have a parking permit on display. However, my permit was displayed on each occasion, and was literally next to where they placed the ticket on my windscreen.

I'm pretty annoyed about this situation, as it's an unnecessary concern at the present. I have no intention of paying the fines and will be appealing to UKPC. I was just wondering if there was any advice anyone give as to what to write in the appeal letter.

Thanks in advance for the help!

The_Slithy_Tove

The NEWBIES sticky thread is the place to go.

Also, check your lease or tenancy to see what it says about parking. If there's nothing about having to display a permit or equivalent clause, then there's no obligation to do so. You need to push back on the management company. Just search this forum for phrases like "ticket in own space", and you'll find loads of examples.

UKPC are quickly becoming even more disreputable than most, deliberately faking tickets by taking forged photographic evidence. Issuing tickets when your permit was displayed is just another example of their illegal and fraudulent behaviour.

Northlakes

Read and digest the NEWBIES thread so you know the full process of how PPC's work and how to get these overturned.

Do a forum search and UKPC appears to be here quite a lot. They seem to have a staff training problem.
In your case what is stated in the lease is very important and if there is nothing in that document about displaying a permit you're on very strong territory.
Loads of other threads will show you the way forward but ignoring is not one of them.

The_Deep

Whether you lease says you need a permit or not, they are claiming breach of contract where, almost certainly, no contract exists, and are trying to penalise you contrary to the law of contract.


Her is some reading


http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/further-fake-times-involving-uk-parking.html

Umkomaas

They seem to have a staff training problem.

I rather suspect that UKPC will argue they have trained their staff very well indeed thank you! Their latest training programmes are resulting in more tickets being issued, more money being generated and much greater publicity - any publicity is good publicity. Oh, wait

Guys_Dad

The photos of the alleged offence should resolve the allegation of the permit missing.

Have you checked that the permit valid date is visible through the windscreen?

The_Slithy_Tove

Guys_Dad wrote: »

The photos of the alleged offence should resolve the allegation of the permit missing.

Who are you kidding? As we have seen, UKPC and "reliable photographic evidence" are mutually exclusive. And we've also seen plenty of examples where photos claiming missing permits are all taken at odd angles or with convenient reflections that mask the presence of the permit.

ampersand

op - ukpc DO not, CANNOT issue 'f----'.

They have given you 3 unenforceable invoices.
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When you've absorbed the newbies stickies, several readings required, check out minnie87's Thread. Head of implosion building nicely there:-)

I wonder if some ukpc operoids have failed photoshop staff training?

If your pics show permit and pcn side by side....

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I'll send you an invoice: £100, for this truthful and correct advice.

Shippo84

My permit was visible and clearly on display when I parked my car and also when I noticed the tickets in the morning. It does not have an expiry date. The only thing I can think is that with there being a lot of rain recently there may of of been some condensation on my windscreen. However, I fail to see how I can do anything about that, and I'm pretty sure my pass would still be visible. I have spoke to other residents in my flats and they have and the same thing happen this week.

HO87

If your lease makes specific reference to your allocated space then it matters not what UKPC may claim. You have the right to quiet enjoyment of the property you lease - including the parking space. UKPC and through them the managing agents are interfering with that right. I personally would not engage with UKPC in any other way than inviting them never to enter your property (the parking space) again. Your rights under your lease trump any rights UKPC may claim to have in contract. Tell them to take a hike and don't engage with their made up appeals nonsense. To do so is to allow them (and the managing agents) to dilute your leasehold rights.

Then tell the managing agents to pull their heads in as well - it will be them who has invited UKPC onto the premises.

Check you lease carefully, of course.