Bit shocked

missyrichards

Drp8713 wrote: »

I live in Dulwich and it is very nice.

I cant imagine ever owning a property here though. To buy a two bedroom flat like ours would cost from £450-600k.

When I do manage to save £50k up (which will be about 5 years) it wont be going down on a deposit here, id rather buy a whole two bedroom house, with land in the Normandy countryside as a holiday home / place to retire.

I don't blame you. My family used to live near Dulwich College and park and I bet the prices are eye watering now!:eek:

lisyloo

Transport slow ?

Definitely in central London.

I used to live on top of an underground station and work on top of another.
4 miles and it was 30 mins (I have many months of info from my TFL account).

Currently I live somewhere less noisy out of choice and the journey is double at peak times i.e. 4 miles an hour.

In wiltshire (including towns and cities and peak times) I'd do about 15 miles in 30 minutes by car sticking to speed limits. 30 miles an hour is very realistic.
So about 4-8 times as slow in general.

JencParker

missyrichards wrote: »

Some parts of London are nice! I know South London the most and I used to socialise in Blackheath and Greenwich. Crystal Palace and Dulwich are both good places.

I would be more than happy to live somewhere like Richmond, Chiswick, Primrose Hill or Hampstead. It's very unlikely I ever will without a lottery win.:D

Richmond is still nice (been here 25 years) but don't think I'd want to live anywhere else in London.

padington

ViolaLass wrote: »

Five sixths is a fairly huge majority.

(I'd move to New Orleans, personally. Fabulous city.)

The population the size of China have earmarked London as the place they want to move to.

It's relevant.

ViolaLass

padington wrote: »

The population the size of China have earmarked London as the place they want to move to.

It's relevant.

I didn't say it wasn't. I was correcting your assertion that one sixth is a majority.

padington

ViolaLass wrote: »

I didn't say it wasn't. I was correcting your assertion that one sixth is a majority.

No it wasn't that five sixths didn't want to move to London. It was one sixth wanted to move to London to work as a first choice. Many others probably placed London as a second and third choice.

New Orleans would certainly have been a very tiny minority.

LoveLifeAgain

Pobby wrote: »

cells wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPm2Ia_Y_zk[/QUOTNow that was a bit of a video. Thanking you for posting. Seems to me to be a snap shot of the ongoing disregard for sensible housing policies.

A great believer in the revolutionary concept of council housing. Often built with a decent amount of garden and a decent standard and, affordable rent. Sold off at under the true value with, what i can only consider, was an insane scheme that none of the council proceeds were allowed for further DECENT housing.

We have a rapidly growing population. A upward demand for housing. Clearly less people are home owners with more and more being tenants in the private sector. Again Thatcherism changed the rights of tenants.

So a decent number of tenants are unable to afford the rent so the tax payer is supporting private landlords. I would not mind so much if the tax payer subsidy was going into council coffers to support more affordable homes.

So far there seems to be little debate.

I agree with you entirely.
However, as it has been 25 years since Mrs Thatcher left office I wonder why successive governments have not changed anything so clearly Labour and Conservative both have had long enough and done zilch so they must share the burden too.
Where I live the council are selling off as soon as they have anything available, including assisted living properties. This has been going on slowly for years no matter who has been in control but getting worse now, just wonder where it will all end.

DigForVictory

I'll visit. Repeatedly. Willingly. (Carefully.)
Live there? Work there? Ye Gods, no.
On a massive forum like this it may sound utterly daft but there are just too many people!

Content to be in a minority, hoping all who do live & work there do so mostly out of choice.

lisyloo

Content to be in a minority

You should be very happy, that you have a better option.
For people from Syria who are being bombed, they don't care about the fact that its busy. That's an extreme example but there are many people who don't have better options e.g. young people who would be unemployed in Greece or Spain.

hoping all who do live & work there do so mostly out of choice.

For most people it's a trade off.
For us it would be much worse career choices and a lot less money outside of London.
You could say money isn't everything, but a roof over your head is pretty important and for most people governs what they can do with their life.
Most people I know do find ways round the overcrowding to a degree. For example my colleague works 8-5 to avoid the rush hour. I sometimes cycle which isn't that much of a hardship and it's quite quiet on the backstreets (I actually go out of central London and back in again to avoid the center).
Most people are making the best choices they can.

Pobby

LoveLifeAgain wrote: »

Pobby wrote: »

I agree with you entirely.
However, as it has been 25 years since Mrs Thatcher left office I wonder why successive governments have not changed anything so clearly Labour and Conservative both have had long enough and done zilch so they must share the burden too.
Where I live the council are selling off as soon as they have anything available, including assisted living properties. This has been going on slowly for years no matter who has been in control but getting worse now, just wonder where it will all end.

Yes certainly.Why the apparent inability to take this matter seriously is beyond me. It is not a problem that will go away but one that is increasing in my mind for ever. Free market has up to now been unable to sort it.