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Sink arrived damaged

Hey folks,

on the 4th of August we bought a ceramic sink from a large uk company online.

I called before ordering to check stock and timeframe.

On the 5th of August we were emailed to say that it was out of stock and would take some time to get in. I called back and was told they would get it out to us as quick as possible when it was back in stock. Having paid already and now out of time for other options I grudingly agreed!

On the 12th of August my wife had complications with her pregnancy and was taken to hospital. Whilst at hospital that day the courier called me and said they were trying to deliver the sink. He said it would be a pain to redeliver to our rural address and asked if there was anyone closer to their depot it could be delivered to - I gave my work address and explained I wouldnt be there. It was delivered there the next day.

My wife had a very traumatic labour and birth and things are difficult she is only just back home but bed ridden. Roll on to Monday this week and I have a plumber ready to fit the sink which has been the first opportunity.

On opening the box one corner is cracked, I called the supplier and they say that as I reported it outwith the 7 day period they cannot do anything. I have explained the situation and how they delivered it later than I was told - they say the 2-3 day delivery time is just estimated.

Can I do anything or is that it!?

Thanks

Comments

  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/284426/oft311.pdf
    2.4.2 The OFT is likely to object to a term that frees the supplier from his
    responsibilities towards the consumer where the consumer does not make a
    complaint immediately or within an unduly short period of time. This applies
    particularly where:
    (a) a time limit is so short that ordinary persons could easily miss it
    through mere inadvertence, or because of circumstances outside
    their control, and
    (b) faults for which the supplier is responsible which could only become
    apparent after a time limit has expired.

    2.4.3 Prompt notification of complaints is desirable because it encourages
    successful resolution and is therefore to be encouraged. But taking away all
    rights to redress is liable to be considered an over-severe sanction for this
    purpose. Where goods are supplied, use of such a term is legally incapable
    of producing that effect and may amount to an offence, because it serves
    to restrict the consumer's statutory rights – see paragraph 2.1.1.

    2.4.4 Any fault found in goods within six months of the date of sale is assumed to
    be the supplier's responsibility unless he can prove otherwise. It is therefore
    particularly misleading for contract terms to seek to exclude or limit the
    consumer's right to redress for faulty goods during the first six months
    after purchase. As noted above (page 11) the use of misleading terms may
    give rise to enforcement action as an unfair commercial practice.

    2.4.6 There is similarly no objection to a term warning consumers of the need to
    check to the best of their ability for any defects or discrepancies at the
    earliest opportunity, and take prompt action as soon as they become aware
    of any problem. Concerns do not arise so long as there is no suggestion
    that the supplier disclaims liability for problems which consumers fail to
    notice.


    Misleading a consumer about their rights can amount to a criminal offence (which is the offence referenced above).

    How did you pay for the item and how much was it?
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Thank you very much for that, it was approx £215 paid via paypal
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 27 August 2015 at 2:21PM
    Raise a dispute on paypal. If that isnt forthcoming, send the company a letter before action.

    ETA: Of course it may be worthwhile pointing out the above to the company (that faults within 6 months are assumed to be inherent and it is for them to prove otherwise and may amount to a criminal offence for them to disclaim liability for faults - especially those found within 6 months from purchase). Some companies break the law because they don't know any better (they should, its their responsibility to ensure they're complying with all appliciable legislation) and some do it on purpose. If the company are the former then inviting them to get legal advice to check their position should spur them into action. If they're the latter.....you may have to follow through on the above of paypal/LBA
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
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    In fact this document may make it crystal clear to them that they cannot impose a 7 day time limit. Its the accompanying documentation to the one I linked above - it gives examples of terms that OFT found breached the unfair terms in consumer contract regulations or the unfair contract terms act and they either made the company change the terms or delete them entirely.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/332719/oft311-annexes.pdf

    Particularly this section (time limit on claims):
    Original term
    … the Customer shall … give Maples written notice of such loss or
    damage with reasonable particulars thereof within 3 days of receipt of the
    Goods.
    Action taken
    New term: … You must tell us about any fault or damage as soon as is
    reasonably possible.

    Original term
    Faulty goods will be exchanged if returned or notified within 7 days from
    the date of invoice and returned in original, clean and full packaging.
    Action taken
    Term deleted.

    Original term
    Written notice of any defect in the goods when delivered shall be served
    upon the company within 7 days of delivery. The Customer shall be
    deemed to have accepted the goods 7 days after delivery.
    Action taken
    New term: The Customer is asked to examine the goods as soon as
    reasonably possible after delivery and notify the Company of any fault or
    damage as soon as reasonably possible.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Thank you so much.

    I'm speaking to them tomorrow I will see what happens and update.
  • The Oft closed in April 2014, how does that affect things and the quotes above?
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The Oft closed in April 2014, how does that affect things and the quotes above?

    It doesnt. It was their guidance to businesses on unfair contract terms act and unfair terms in consumer contract regulations - both of which are still in force despite OFT's replacement.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Thank you so much for the help.

    Thanks to this it has now been resolved amicably, thanks to this info!
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Glad you got it sorted and thanks for letting us know the outcome :)
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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