We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Will furnished lettings be a thing of the past?
Mrs_pbradley936
Posts: 14,573 Forumite
Does anybody have an opinion on the latest changed to the wear and tear allowance and if that will lead to mostly unfurnished lets?
Landlords are losing their 10% allowance (as well as tax relief on interest paid on buy to let). I wondered if that would mean landlords not being keen on furnished lets anymore.
Plus I suspect that poorer people would be worse of if unfurnished is more attractive to landlords because they will have to folk out for beds, table, chairs, sofa, fridge etc. What is the average cost of a furnished let compared to an unfurnished let?
Landlords are losing their 10% allowance (as well as tax relief on interest paid on buy to let). I wondered if that would mean landlords not being keen on furnished lets anymore.
Plus I suspect that poorer people would be worse of if unfurnished is more attractive to landlords because they will have to folk out for beds, table, chairs, sofa, fridge etc. What is the average cost of a furnished let compared to an unfurnished let?
0
Comments
-
Landlords will be able to claim the replacement cost of anything they need to replace.
If the local market wants furnished lets, there will still be a provider.0 -
Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »Does anybody and an opinion on the latest changed to the wear and tear allowance and if that will lead to mostly unfurnished lets?
Landlords are losing their 10% allowance (as well as tax relief on interest paid on buy to let). I wondered if that would mean landlords not being keen on furnished lets anymore.
Plus I suspect that poorer people would be worse of if unfurnished is more attractive to landlords because they will have to folk out for beds, table, chairs, sofa, fridge etc. What is the average cost of a furnished let compared to an unfurnished let?
Just a guess but I'd say about £50 a month on a £500 monthly rent. Unfurnished being £450 per month. All they've really done is changed it to actual expenses incurred rather than just claiming £50 without receipts.
A furnished property couldn't deduct those expenses as they had a 10% W&T allowance. Now they can. A new bed every few years...that's fine put it down as an expense. Might make landlords want to provide better quality longer lasting furnishings...then again it might not.:footie:
Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
0 -
In future, I will only offer unfurnished lets. The cost and aggro of providing, maintaining and replacing furniture is simply too much. The extra rent I would receive doesn't make it worthwhile.
I wouldn't be surprised if unfurnished lets become more common, especially in areas where demand for lets, of any type, is strong.0 -
If there is strong demand someone will provide it.
I always thought finished places were either high end or flee pits. If you are really that broke it makes a difference then use free cycle instead.0 -
While some level of furnishing is desirable - the downside is that you usually get the LL's tatty leftovers and remnants.
So, if everywhere's unfurnished then renters will live.... you don't have to have solid furniture - hanging rails and canvas wardrobes, airbeds and beanbags suffice.
A mini oven and a cheap/2nd hand fridge.
Job done.0 -
Mrs_pbradley936 wrote: »Plus I suspect that poorer people would be worse of if unfurnished is more attractive to landlords because they will have to folk out for beds, table, chairs, sofa, fridge etc. What is the average cost of a furnished let compared to an unfurnished let?
I suspect they'll be better off. Instead of paying a £100 a month premium for some crap the LL fished out of a skip, they'll be able to get their own stuff from e-bay/freecycle/gumtree/same skip. At the very bottom end of the market, I'd be surprised if the LL has spent anymore than £100 each room."Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius0 -
Just a small point, landlords are not losing tax relief on interest on buy to let, it is being capped at 20%.0
-
Your small point is off topic, but since you made it, I would point out that the big fusses about interest on buy to let is on making a tax exemption on an allowable expense into a tax relieve and then reducing it. If one gets taxed before expenses, one can be taxed to make a loss. You are right however that the remaining 20% is a silver lining.POPPYOSCAR wrote: »Just a small point, landlords are not losing tax relief on interest on buy to let, it is being capped at 20%.2nd Aug, 15: £276k. 18th Sep, 15: £269k. 30th Oct, 15: £265k.0 -
Your small point is off topic, but since you made it, I would point out that the big fusses about interest on buy to let is on making a tax exemption on an allowable expense into a tax relieve and then reducing it. If one gets taxed before expenses, one can be taxed to make a loss. You are right however that the remaining 20% is a silver lining.
Not off topic at all.
Very relevant to the debate as some might think that landlords no longer get any tax relief which if was the case could change the situation dramatically for some.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.4K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.4K Spending & Discounts
- 245.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 601.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.6K Life & Family
- 259.2K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards