Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Fella

He's an egomaniac, and as an egomaniac he loves nothing more than to hold these staged rallies, preaching to the converted. As mentioned before, don't expect to see Corbyn face a hostile crowd anytime soon, he never ever does so.

It would be amusing to see him try to win over a hostile crowd with his mindless 70s rhetoric. But his ego wouldn't be able to take it.

Moby

The continual smearing on this thread of a man who has good values and is trying to make the world a better place for the weak and disadvantaged is quite illuminating. I don't recognise him by the way he is characterised on here at all or the nastiness of the language used about him by many on this thread, (Cretin...etc.). I suppose it's a natural defensive response by those who feel such a man threatens their traditional prerogatives in our western society...... The sheer hypocrisy of attacking him for not condemning the Venezualan Government while totally ignoring the fact that the Tory Govmt have been selling them millions of pounds worth of arms for years is of course sheer partisan bigotry. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/11/uk-criticised-over-sales-of-military-equipment-to-venezuela

Moby

bobbymotors wrote: »

Why is it called austerity?

It's simply living within your means.

We'd all like every government department to have endless funds but it can't be done.

As a country (as in all countries) eventually the borrowing has to stop and we HAVE to live within our means. It can be no other way.

I tend to find that the people who are most in favour of austerity tend to be those who it least affects.

TrickyTree83

Moby wrote: »

The continual smearing on this thread of a man who has good values and is trying to make the world a better place for the weak and disadvantaged is quite illuminating. I don't recognise him by the way he is characterised on here at all or the nastiness of the language used about him by many on this thread, (Cretin...etc.). I suppose it's a natural defensive response by those who feel such a man threatens their traditional prerogatives in our western society...... The sheer hypocrisy of attacking him for not condemning the Venezualan Government while totally ignoring the fact that the Tory Govmt have been selling them millions of pounds worth of arms for years is of course sheer partisan bigotry. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/11/uk-criticised-over-sales-of-military-equipment-to-venezuela

So why doesn't Corbyn denounce the use of violence to suppress what the people want in Venezuela? I thought he was all about the people from what his followers keep telling us?

bobbymotors

Moby wrote: »

I tend to find that the people who are most in favour of austerity tend to be those who it least affects.

And can you tell me where what I said is untrue instead of implying you know how much money Ive got when you clearly don't? So how about sticking to what I said instead of trying to shift / divert matters.

But you won't do that will you?

Because, as always, when you say to the left 'great. Where's the money coming from?' they can never answer, becaue there is no answer, merely throw insults and bleat about tory cuts.

We (the whole world) will HAVE to live within our means at some point. It really cannot be any other way.

antrobus

Moby wrote: »

I tend to find that the people who are most in favour of austerity tend to be those who it least affects.

I doubt very much there is anybody who is in favour of austerity.

The last Labour government ran a fiscal deficit of 10% of GDP before it was kicked out. That level of deficit is unsustainable. Subsequent governments have sought to reduce this deficit by increasing taxes and cutting spending. We call this austerity. In the same way as we use the word 'austerity' to describe what the Attlee government of 1945-1951 did to reduce the fiscal deficit of some 6.5% of GDP that it inherited.

The only question is, what kind of austerity do you want? Or what should be the balance between cutting spending or increasing taxes? What spending should you cut, and what taxes do you want to increase?

Fella

Anybody else noticed how if you list the things Corbyn has actually done, or said, or refuses to say, the Corbynistas all leap to call it a smear?

Nobody smears Corbyn because there is no need to. Simply listing the facts about him is damning enough.

30 years of support for terrorists & regimes like Venezuela. 30 years of utter disloyalty to his own party (& therefore utter treachery towards all those Labour supporters who voted for that party). And in the brief time he's been in charge at Labour, he's ignored a vote of no confidence, reshuffled/sacked more shadow cabinet members than anybody ever before, delivered eye-wateringly shocking results in the local elections, followed by a sound beating in the General Election, and STILL refuses to denounce either the IRA or Venezuela.

Oh dear Jeremy Corbyn.

Thrugelmir

I tend to find that the people who are most in favour of austerity tend to be those who it least affects.

That's an obvious statement to make. That offers no solutions to the challenges that are faced. Austerity is a necessity. How it is imposed in an equitable manner is another. That has to be progressively worked through. This will take time.

Fella

Yes, it would be more relevant to say those who are most against austerity tend to be those who pay for everything.

It's a point the Corbyn types like to ignore, but public services are the same for everybody. Policing, the NHS, the armed forces, prisons, etc etc.

However one half of those people are net contributors & thereby fund 100% of those things. The other half gets them for free.

Ironically it's the latter half who complain endlessly when their free public services aren't of a high enough standard.

steampowered

Fella wrote: »

More dishonesty & staged events from Corbyn & his team:

STOP PRESS: politician makes a staged visit to a GP surgery/hospital.

I am genuinely astonished that you believe this to be comment worthy.