Corbynomics: A Dystopia

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

I agree a new flat rate might be well received by the majority! I'm suprised though that Osborne looks like making these changes....unless it's all unfounded speculation!

Imho he won't make those changes.....

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

For a start you don't mention London....did you know most recent polls put Sadiq 10 points ahead. You only seem to quote polls when they suit. Your thesis also doesn't acknowledge how volatile things are. ....The EU referendum...how will that play out?....Cameron will then be replaced ....by who? Will they be as popular? That will all happen before 2020.

By Boris who's very popular with voters....

setmefree2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And whats on the front of the Daily Hatred? Oh look, Jeremy Corbyn for a change.

This time he has dared to be popular with migrants in Calais.

Oh come on. He was strutting around as if he was the real JC. I thought it was nauseating.

Moby

setmefree2 wrote: »

By Boris who's very popular with voters....

The one I have respect for is Theresa May. She seems really able, has real substance and seems an effective operator.

Generali

Moby wrote: »

The one I have respect for is Theresa May. She seems really able, has real substance and seems an effective operator.

I'd be perfectly happy to see Bozza as the next PM but I think Ms May is the candidate that has the most talent. She's had the toughest of the big three mandates for almost 6 years now and hasn't really dropped the ball.

She has experience inside and outside politics and, unlike the posh boys on the Labour side, went to state school which apparently is important in the UK for reasons I am yet to understand.

Moby

Generali wrote: »

I'd be perfectly happy to see Bozza as the next PM but I think Ms May is the candidate that has the most talent. She's had the toughest of the big three mandates for almost 6 years now and hasn't really dropped the ball.

She has experience inside and outside politics and, unlike the posh boys on the Labour side, went to state school which apparently is important in the UK for reasons I am yet to understand.

She doesn't play to the populist gallery either ..............re. the state v public school debate.....it's about access to networking/opportunity/power etc. I went to Oxford to do my degrees and mixed there with people from a different world from my Secondary school days. Most of them came from privileged public school backgrounds and were 'destined' to be successful. I accept a proportion of this was because they were extremely able but they had clearly been imbued with a can do spirit and confidence from a young age. In my secondary school I was bullied for trying to get good results in exams. The demarcation boundaries re. class opportunity is pehaps starker here in the UK than most western countries.

gadgetmind

Moby wrote: »

I was bullied for trying to get good results in exams.

There does seem to be an attitude in the UK that working hard is sucking up to the boss and makes everyone else look bad, that education is a mug's game and achieves nothing, and that anyone who is successful must have cheated, inherited or exploited to get there.

I've worked alongside people who've told me all of those things, usually multiple times.

Fortunately I totally ignored them.

gadgetmind

Interesting report here.

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-01-25/revealed-secret-labour-report-published-in-full/

Summary:
What did Labour get wrong? Pretty much everything.
How do voters feel about the Conservatives? Pretty positive, even Labour voters.
What do Labour need to do now? Atone for the past and be far more like the Conservatives.

Moby

gadgetmind wrote: »

There does seem to be an attitude in the UK that working hard is sucking up to the boss and makes everyone else look bad, that education is a mug's game and achieves nothing, and that anyone who is successful must have cheated, inherited or exploited to get there.

I've worked alongside people who've told me all of those things, usually multiple times.

Fortunately I totally ignored them.

It was particularly bad in the seventies! I was in the first year of comprehensive....when it changed from Grammar and Secondary Modern. Pot luck mean't that I went to a new comprehensive in which the four school years above me were secondary modern CSE 'students'.........We were streamed into sets. My parents made me wear the school uniform...whereas most of my contemporaries were able to get away with dressing up like Bay City Rollers in Doc Martins with tartan on their turn ups. Needless to say I used to get the cr*p kicked out of me day after day!:eek: I hated my school days!

lisyloo

Moby wrote: »

The one I have respect for is Theresa May. She seems really able, has real substance and seems an effective operator.

You forgot to mention she has excellent shoes :-)