Between a rock and a hard place. Advice and options needed.

darkknight84

I need advice people, as i am currently unsure of the best option to take (or lack of) regarding the criminal neighbours renting the flat next to mine.

The thing is, the walls are paper thin and i can hear everything they say and do. I can hear it when they make there plans regarding their next score. I can hear it when they giggle and gloat about the haul they have just taken. I can hear it when they speak about the loaded guns they have on their person a few feet from where i am sitting on my sofa, i even hear them cutting, measuring and bagging the dope on the kitchen counter LOL.

I currently live in a flat at the front of the premises, and they rent the flat at the back of the premises. There is a small car park where access to the flats are gained. Very dark at night time as there are no security lights. The neighbours park there stolen cars behind here for a few hours at night then move them on.

All through the night, they are receiving text messages presumably a drug order, whereby one of the guys bags the goods and leaves for 10-20 mins then returns and waits for the next order.

I suspected they were bad news when they set up shop as it were, as they do not sleep there, only conduct their low life form of business at the residence. But it is in the last few weeks that they have stepped up their callous occupancy of the next door flat, and with their devil may care bragging amongst themselves and suspicious activity at the back of the building when night falls, that has me seeking a new place of residence.

I would very much like to know what you would do in my place, as i find myself feeling a little intimidated. This is not easy for me to say as i am well equipped to deal with these individuals in a fair fight if it came to it, but this sort don't play fair and i fear for my safety if i ask them to keep the noise down and they tell me to p**s off and try and intimidate me and i bite.

And im not sure about tipping the police off as i feel kinda like a grass, and would worry about these people putting 2 and 2 together and taking some sort of retaliation out on me.

I am asking the landlord tomorrow for a move, but im not going to go into specifics, but am worried that staying silent and not reporting these people would put someone else in harms way.

What would you guys do?

Sorry about the long post.

Innys1

I'd move - a long way away - and then grass on them.

wwl

Makes me sick when people regard reporting scum like this being a bad thing.
Of course you need to protect yourself, but it sounds like you might overhear something unrelated to your location that could be anonymously tipped to the Police.
If you move, definitely inform Police of everything, maybe leave it a few weeks so they're less likely to associate it with you.

G_M

stealing cars and drug dealing are not just illegal, but anti-social, and costly to the rest of us.

Police report. No question.

wwl

Bear in mind the LL may be aware/complicit/under duress so come up with a good reason you're looking to move.
Also you may want to edit out some details as from this and other posts of yours it wouldn't take long to figure out your address from the info you've posted.

darkknight84

wwl wrote: »

Bear in mind the LL may be aware/complicit/under duress so come up with a good reason you're looking to move.
Also you may want to edit out some details as from this and other posts of yours it wouldn't take long to figure out your address from the info you've posted.

Advice taken even though i cant imagine them using or perusing money saving expert forums LOL.

bouicca21

Surely an anonymous call to crime stoppers is all it takes? In that sort of world there would be plenty of suspects for a grass, no particular reason for them to finger you.

darkknight84

bouicca21 wrote: »

Surely an anonymous call to crime stoppers is all it takes? In that sort of world there would be plenty of suspects for a grass, no particular reason for them to finger you.

I have thought this, and i have imagined scenarios of how much detail to go into, such as specific times, dates, names and places where crimes are due or have already taken place. This sort of evidence would either require evidence, testimony, or the admission of a tip off. Now these guys next door don't have half a brain between them by the sounds of things. Be that as it may, even the dullest tool in the box would be able to figure where they let slip all these details. And even if im in the wind by this time, they may decide it was one of the other neighbours who shopped them. or they could track me down. Not hard considering they know my name from my post and would just follow the breadcrumbs. Or just get someone to threaten the landlord into giving my new address if im still with the company.

When i complained to the landlord some months back about the noise levels next door, she said they may be using the premises as a front. I didn't take anything from this at first, but as was highlighted in a previous post, the landlord may be in on this, as they either clearly had knowledge of the goings on, and are complicit. Or they know and just don't care. Either way, they cannot be trusted to keep my details private.

[Deleted User]

I am at a loss for words. Rare with me. No wonder these people get away with what they do.., which is basically killing people through drug use for monetary gain.

Nothing stopping you arranging to move (not with the same LL, which makes you complicit if you suspect they already know what's going on) and reporting it. Nothing at all.

SWALLOW

The most important thing is your personal safety so I would say move first.
Secondly you do not have to give your personal details to the police to report a crime they will ask of course but you do not have to give it or call from your mobile or home number. You have options but you should look after yourself first and foremost.

darkknight84

deannatrois wrote: »

I am at a loss for words. Rare with me. No wonder these people get away with what they do.., which is basically killing people through drug use for monetary gain.

Nothing stopping you arranging to move (not with the same LL, which makes you complicit if you suspect they already know what's going on) and reporting it. Nothing at all.

Contacted a landlord of a property earlier who has yet to reply, but looking around on gumtree there isn't a lot of places local that would be within my budget. And going through an agency requires more money than i have right now to sort letting fees, deposits and advance rent etc. But i do wish to stay in the area as its close to my family.

If i am forced to remain with the same company due to lack of options, it will influence my decision making in regards to reporting criminal activity, only in so far as a time frame of when to tell and what details to share.