Why isn't anyone panicing?

Thrugelmir

gzoom wrote: »

S&P has no correlation to the UK housing market. US bubble burst two years earlier.

gzoom

Thrugelmir wrote: »

S&P has no correlation to the UK housing market. US bubble burst two years earlier.

...and here in the UK we are never effected by what happens in the US/China etc

vmp

On 30th December 1999, the FTSE 100 closed at 6930

At this moment, almost 16 years later, it's trading 1000 points (or about 14%) lower than that at 5918.

Although that's a lot better than 9th March 2009, when it closed at 3542 or almost 50% below that 1999 price

Just in the spirit of giving a different perspective

Pincher

When they get tired of screaming, people still have to put their money somewhere.

Check out the dividends on BP and Royal Dutch Shell, yummy.

jimjames

vmp wrote: »

On 30th December 1999, the FTSE 100 closed at 6930

At this moment, almost 16 years later, it's trading 1000 points (or about 14%) lower than that at 5918.

Although that's a lot better than 9th March 2009, when it closed at 3542 or almost 50% below that 1999 price

Just in the spirit of giving a different perspective

Poor numbers if you look at them in isolation with no context.

Reality is that you've taken no account of dividends and would actually be 60% up over that time. You're also assuming you invested ALL your money on the worst possible day and only invested your money in the FTSE 100. Likely that very, very few people did both those things and having portfolio in a single limited index is very poor investing.


Other indexes such as the FTSE250 have tripled in value over the same time - and that's UK companies too.

le_loup

vmp wrote: »

At this moment, almost 16 years later, it's trading 1000 points (or about 14%) lower than that at 5918.

Meanwhile dividends have paid how much?

gzoom

vmp wrote: »

On 30th December 1999, the FTSE 100 closed at 6930

At this moment, almost 16 years later, it's trading 1000 points (or about 14%) lower than that at 5918.

Although that's a lot better than 9th March 2009, when it closed at 3542 or almost 50% below that 1999 price

Just in the spirit of giving a different perspective

So is this bad or good for pensions longterm?? I just pay my monthly allocation into the scheme (NHS) and not worry about the rest because its far too complicated for my brain :rotfl:

gzoom

Pincher wrote: »

When they get tired of screaming, people still have to put their money somewhere.

Check out the dividends on BP and Royal Dutch Shell, yummy.

Is share divedends paid out per quaters. So BP paid 1.6% per share in Q2, is than repeated x4 a year - If so, that much better than the 2.5% we are getting back on a couple of ISA. So the shareprice would be almost irrelvant providing the divedends are paid.

TheTracker

TheSpaceMan wrote: »

After the markets are heading down the south like sherman I'm surprised I'm not seeing more concern on the forums.

Because after he reached Savannah he turned North. Market will do same.

Thrugelmir

gzoom wrote: »

...and here in the UK we are never effected by what happens in the US/China etc

Many companies are international in nature.