Laptop 1TB HDD to 1TB SSD conversion - what do i need to do?

System

But the 2 laptops with spinning disks have never been near mini partition tool. They have been built from scratch with standard build discs. One has then been upgraded tom Win 10.

From Toms Hardware site

TRIM is a Microsoft Windows 7 feature. It is enabled by default

from http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx

In the old days, you would sometimes be told by power users to run this at the command line to see if TRIM was enabled for your SSD. A zero result indicates it is.

fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

However, this stuff is handled by Windows today in 2014, and you can trust that it's "doing the right thing." Windows 7, along with 8 and 8.1 come with appropriate and intelligent defaults and you don't need to change them for optimal disk performance. This is also true with Server SKUs like Windows Server 2008R2 and later.

so my previous post stands

almillar

So the statement you don't just clone from HDD to SSD is obviously false.

That's a very dangerous thing to say. You don't mention the cloning software you used. Maybe it enabled TRIM?! It's already been mentioned in the thread, and I acknowledged it, that some cloning tools might help with it. BUT giving users carte blanch to just clone something whatever way they want, without CHECKING TRIM, is a very bad idea, and what I was trying to avoid.
So I accept that Win 7,8,10 does this, but I'm not sure if Win 7 always did it, and certainly previous versions didn't. So your blanket statement is also false - people cloning Vista or XP (no, I don't know why either!) would still need to heed it.

System

As neither Vista nor XP support any form of trim then my statement is still valid. If you are cloning those OS's then you will need to install and use a third party utility AFTER cloning to manage it.

If you clone using a cloning tool that supports trim then it will be a one off trim and in the scheme of things will make very little difference if you don't install any other TRIM method.

almillar

I'll fix your statement for your since you're stuck in the Windows present. You've heard of Linux and OSX for example, I assume. My point is simply to take TRIM into account. Your statement tells everyone the never need to think about it, no matter what's on the disk. I think they should.
SO:

you don't just clone from HDD to SSD unless you're using Windows 7, 8 or 10

This can be updated if anyone adds any further knowledge.

safsnowball

almillar wrote: »

I'll fix your statement for your since you're stuck in the Windows present. You've heard of Linux and OSX for example, I assume. My point is simply to take TRIM into account. Your statement tells everyone the never need to think about it, no matter what's on the disk. I think they should.
SO:

you don't just clone from HDD to SSD unless you're using Windows 7, 8 or 10

This can be updated if anyone adds any further knowledge.

Further knowledge = modern operating systems, including Windows 7+, Mac OS X 10.6.8+, and Android 4.3+ use TRIM. TRIM was implemented in Linux back in December 2008

enfield_freddy

so , are we suggesting the OP uses cloning software that offers to set the SSD trim or not?

HibbsAlex

That's actually a really good price. I agree with the current consensus though that you need to really consider having a main OS SSD drive and keeping your current one.

safsnowball

enfield_freddy wrote: »

so , are we suggesting the OP uses cloning software that offers to set the SSD trim or not?

He just clones using software suggested, Windows will take care of the Trim function.

If OP wants to double check afterwards he should run Command Prompt as an administrator and type:

fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It will give you one of two results, either a 0 or a 1. A zero indicates that TRIM is enabled correctly, a one means that it is not. If you find that Windows hasn't enabled the command, it can easily be done by running this command:

fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0