20 questions to the BPA

enfield_freddy

Q:
to BPA is there a grace period on "x" car park , looked after by "x" private parking company ?

A
: yes there is


Q: what is the grace periods in the following situations?

1: grace period upon entering in order to read / digest and accept signage
2: grace period to leave land after expiry of time/ticket


I then entered the txt from there code of practice


"13.3 You should be prepared to tell us the specific grace
period at a site if our compliance team or our agents askwhat it is.




A:
sorry I cannot tell you , we do not disclose this to the general public


he then enclosed a document relating to council. grace periods .






the BPA "raising parking standards" , my !!! , knowing when an operator is lying , and covering for him




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Dublindel

The grace period is ALWAYS one minute less than the time you stayed which is why it's never displayed.

fil_cad

Simple answere, Be Strong and DONT PAY !!!!!! ALL.

enfield_freddy

how can you appeal , when the information to clear you is being withheld by there trade assoc?

Herzlos

I guess you can say "I put the PPC to strict proof that the gace period was adhered to. I cannot state what the actual grace period is as the BPA refuse to provide this information, but I believe it should be in line with the council grace period of 10 minutes".

ManxRed

Herzlos wrote: »

I guess you can say "I put the PPC to strict proof that the grace period was adhered to. I cannot state what the actual grace period is as both the PPC and the BPA refuse to provide this information, but I believe it should be in line with the council grace period of 10 minutes".

Might sound even better.

fisherjim

You would think that as the BPA say they audit every site they should be able to give a guide to every locations grace period.

ManxRed

That's just it, THEY know the grace period of every single site in the UK, it's just that they're not going to tell members of the public, because it's not in their interests to know this.

Plus, the pesky motorist might be able to appeal if he knows the ticket has been issued incorrectly. Not that PPC's ever do that, you understand.

enfield_freddy

correct , they know the grace period , but its not in the remit of the BPA code of practice to tell the general public


"BPA , driving up standards"




tell me another one!

enfield_freddy

however it is not written anywhere that they can withhold info




he did however forward a PDF to me regarding grace periods , this is after he knew what company / what car park


yup it was regarding 10 mins grace on council car parks


"


"Good car parking practice always included ‘grace’ periods, the government just made it mandatory"


　


Kelvin Reynolds, Director of Public Affairs and Policy at the British Parking Association (BPA) says "Most local authorities already applied grace periods, where enforcement action was delayed in appropriate circumstances on permitted parking bays. Making it statutory could be counterproductive if motorists in busy locations regularly overstay, and occupy space that could be used by others. Allowing councils to use their discretion on grace periods did actually help local shops because in areas of high demand as traders actually want faster turnover of custom", says Kelvin.


　


Grace periods are often confused with an observation period, which is the time when a civil enforcement officer is required to observe the parked vehicles to ensure that an exempt activity, such as loading or picking up a passenger, isn't occurring before issuing a penalty charge notice.


　


It is important to remember that this 10 minute grace period is only allowed following the expiry of a paid-for parking or permitted free parking period. It does not apply on yellow lines or anywhere parking would not be permitted by that vehicle. It applies to both on-street and locally authority regulated off-street parking. The BPA Code of Practice covering private off street parking is being updated to reflect the change in the law for regulated parking. Motorists are therefore not confused by different rule on grace periods at least.


　


The Explanatory Memorandum can be found at:


http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/561/pdfs/uksiem_20150561_en.pdf








　


The Statutory Instrument can be found at:






http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/561/pdfs/uksi_20150561_en.pdf

peter_the_piper

Grace period! Is this the time you paid for plus 5 to 10 mins. or is it the time you were on site +5-10 mins?(allowing for searching time and finding the exit time?