Late notification of intended prosecution

Retrogamer

losgiganteskid wrote: »

but as to the driver is it reasonable to remember who was driving your car back in May ?

Reasonable or not, he'll be looking at 6 points and a big fine if he doesn't.

ChumLee

enfield_freddy wrote: »

separate offence , speeding is one offence , failing to name a driver is a separate and more costly offence


I suspect the reg doc to throw some light on this,


what date did he buy the car


and more importantly , what is the date that is shown in the V5?


if this "gap" is about the time of the offence , the police will have written to the last owner , who might have been the garage (or not) then the garage , before arriving on his mat

Maximum fine for speeding £2500.
Maximum fine for failing to name driver £1000.

You're on a roll today.

tberry6686

ChumLee wrote: »

Maximum fine for speeding £2500.
Maximum fine for failing to name driver £1000.

You're on a roll today.

It's very rare for a speeding offence to reach a fine that high but the costs for S.172 offence are generally much higher (often due to the large increase in insurance costs with this offence on your licence) so I see where Freddy is coming from with this.

EssexExile

He needs to look at where the offence occurred, the time of day and any other info he can think of to work out who it was. There is a possible defence if he can show that he can't name a driver, but courts set the bar for that one very high.

If there really is no way of knowing who the driver was this is a good defence, if it's just a ploy prosecutors & magistrates have heard it all before & will see through it.

Maximum fine for speeding £2500.
Maximum fine for failing to name driver £1000.

Depends where the speeding was. The likely fine for speeding is lower, depends on speed.

enfield_freddy

ChumLee wrote: »

Maximum fine for speeding £2500.
Maximum fine for failing to name driver £1000.

You're on a roll today.

gosh I have a stalker , read the post above this , someone will explain to you "why" I used the remark that the fail to name driver is a more serious offence


and please stalk someone else

ChumLee

enfield_freddy wrote: »

gosh I have a stalker , read the post above this , someone will explain to you "why" I used the remark that the fail to name driver is a more serious offence


and please stalk someone else

You made a comment about cost not which is more serious and it was wrong.

Some may say speeding is more serious than failing to name as there is a risk of injury associated to that.

ChumLee

EssexExile wrote: »

Depends where the speeding was. The likely fine for speeding is lower, depends on speed.

Correct, but the maximum sentence for speeding isn't less.

Marktheshark

Fill the s172 in, reject the conditional offer and await a summons.
NIP is out of time and the case will be struck out

ChumLee

Marktheshark wrote: »

Fill the s172 in, reject the conditional offer and await a summons.
NIP is out of time and the case will be struck out

Don't list to this.

Another case of bad advice as he's clueless about law.

Retrogamer

Saying you can't remember who was the driver isn't going to be a good defence.

Giving proof you were out the country when the offence occurred, you left your keys in the house and naming all the people who would have had access to those keys whilst you were away is a better defence but with how high they set the bar for getting out of naming a driver i wouldn't be surprised if that didn't stick either.

As for the person suggesting to reject the conditional offer, i wouldn't recommend it as it's possible that due to the dates the car changed keepers on the V5 this is what caused the delay and the 14 day rule is no longer applicable.