road tax question

jimjames

Richard53 wrote: »

That's understood. The last car I bought (from a dealer, untaxed) I drove 5 minutes to a car park near the Post Office and it was taxed 10 minutes later. I like to live dangerously . But, as said above, technically the car is in the hands of a new owner and therefore the previous tax is no longer valid. The fact that is will show up as taxed in any enquiry is true, and you would be highly unlikely to be stopped for it, but strictly you are driving without tax from the moment you take possession, unless you tax it at the point of sale. Is that correct?

Yes it is correct. I couldn't just answer yes as it was too short

Joe_Horner

Richard53 wrote: »

I don't want to sound like a Luddite here, but does this mean that there needs to be an internet connection at the time and place of sale for the new owner to legally drive home?

You don't sound like a Luddite, you sound like someone who lives in the real world rather than the fantasy one of Government where everyone is "connected" at all times, with speeds around their recommended minimum of 15Mbps.

If you're not connected like that then it's your own fault, not the fault of the !!!! poor infrastructure that's currently giving us around 200Kbps on a landline broadband connection in the evenings (3Mbps the rest of the time), with the suppliers denying there's a problem - "its just congestion, sir" - because that would mean escalating it to Openreach to sort their bloody exchange out.

WellKnownSid

You're forgetting the "free month" the DVLA now get with every change. Unless you have trade plates or a recovery truck and don't re-tax until the following month.

Now there's a business plan...

oscarward

Just out of curiosity. When I purchased my last second hand car in 2010 the dealer salesman asked me to pay and take delivery before the end of the month (to get in to his months sales targets). I was actually without a car after a write off and had only asked for the collection on the 1st delivery because I didn't want to pay a full month VED for 3 days.

However it had already been taxed with a view to delivery on the 1st. So I drove for IIRC 3 days technically untaxed, it was a demonstrator from another branch so I think that the dealer was going to send back the old tax disc for a refund so I felt pretty safe.


Anyway in todays new regime could that still be done?

Does anyone know if the enforcement apparatus looks at start date as well as expiry or does it just say taxed?

Looking on the DVLA web site it says you can apply on the last 2 working days of the month to start on the 1st. Is that the same as 'in force'? I'm not planning anything like this BTW.


If your vehicle is taxed






You can apply from the 5th day of the month in which your current


vehicle tax runs out. Your new tax will come into force on the first day


of the next month.




If your vehicle is not taxed or has a SORN






If you apply in the last two working days of a month, the tax can start on


the first day of the next month. If you apply before then, your tax will be


backdated to the start of the current month

Minrich

s_b wrote: »

no you cant legally drive it home because to be insured you need to be the owner of the vehicle thus the road tax would need to be in your name
also its easy now to update new keeper and cancel the road tax through the govt porthole
https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

You need to be the owner of the car to insure it ? I don't think that is true .

Also ... Is the Government a ship ? Porthole ?

Le_Kirk

s_b wrote: »

....... the road tax through the govt porthole

I love it, it's portal but yours sounds better!!

reeac

It's the ship of state in troubled waters.(Google it).