Housing is an example of how Scotland makes better use of its powers than Westminster

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

I am referring to the real world

if you are thinking about a different model then that's a different thing upon which I may have a view.

Things can change infact they already are and it would be easy to let new properties under different rules.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

Things can change infact they already are and it would be easy to let new properties under different rules.

the rules may be 'better' or they may be'worse'; without such knowledge I have no view.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

An interesting take. Especially re confidence and security to build without worrying about losing stock to RTB. Which is the better housing policy.. Hmmmm.... Any thoughts ?

https://commonspace.scot/articles/2071/gary-elliot-housing-is-an-example-of-how-scotland-makes-better-use-of-its-powers-than-westminster

Full article at the link.

so to be clear: you wish to celebrate the situation that because some-one falls on hard times, in scotland they will NEVER better themselves and build out of the pit and so need subsidy for the rest of their life?

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

the rules may be 'better' or they may be'worse'; without such knowledge I have no view.

https://www.gov.uk/council-housing/types-of-tenancy I believe most new tenancies are flexible not ideal but a start.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

https://www.gov.uk/council-housing/types-of-tenancy I believe most new tenancies are flexible not ideal but a start.

It's awful.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

It's awful.

So is paying £800 a month to a landlord to house somebody that could be housed for less.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

So is paying £800 a month to a landlord to house somebody that could be housed for less.

paying say 800 per month for a year is better than (say) paying 600 per month for the rest of their life?
plus of course all the other negatives of council housing

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

paying say 800 per month for a year is better than (say) paying 600 per month for the rest of their life?
plus of course all the other negatives of council housing

But that's it it's not just a year and of course that £800 will increase and the £600 will remain the same. At 1 % the interest on that property that rents for £800 a month is £180 a month.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

But that's it it's not just a year and of course that £800 will increase and the £600 will remain the same. At 1 % the interest on that property that rents for £800 a month is £180 a month.

lets take a 17 girls that gets pregnant

she colludes with her parents (on the advice of state funded charities) to say (lies) that she has been excluded from the family home, so qualifies for a state subsidised council house for the rest of her life.
Her life may change in many ways (good jobs, child/children leave home) but she can, if she wishes, keep her state subsidised house for her life.

Alternatively, if she was only subsidised when in need, that may have just been a few years.

We could of course discuss the opportunity costs of wasting a public resource for 80 years or so but that would take a little more time plus of course all the other negatives of social housing.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

lets take a 17 girls that gets pregnant

she colludes with her parents (on the advice of state funded charities) to say (lies) that she has been excluded from the family home, so qualifies for a state subsidised council house for the rest of her life.
Her life may change in many ways (good jobs, child/children leave home) but she can, if she wishes, keep her state subsidised house for her life.

Alternatively, if she was only subsidised when in need, that may have just been a few years.

We could of course discuss the opportunity costs of wasting a public resource for 80 years or so but that would take a little more time plus of course all the other negatives of social housing.

But that's always your argument state subsidised for life which doesn't have to be the case but then your argument falls to bits if you don't use that argument.

What other negatives of social housing the problems with social housing now are the problems of society in general and now many private estates in the south east art suffering as much a social housing.