Ethical parking management online appeal

yoyo09542

Okay, so I'm a newbie but I *swear* I have read and searched every possible thread before posting this so big apologies if it's still a stupid question.
I'm following advice and challenging a cbc from ethical parking management on unreasonableness of costs grounds (£100 for 5 minutes parking). I was using their online appeal form which wants me to agree to their terms and conditions which includes saying I will allow them to start proceedings against me and the address I have provided. Would ticking this box give them any more rights over me than those they already have? Couldn't attach a link as I'm a newbie but it's the standard appeals page on their website.

Also, I have to identify myself as keeper - again, does that remove their need to issue me with a ntk or can I still use that as grounds if they fail to do so properly?

Many thanks in advance.

P.s. I nearly just went ahead and paid this within their 'reduced' time frame just to save the hassle. What tipped me over the edge was their added £2 'administration' charge to the already extortionate ticket. It's funny how sometimes it's the small things that wind you up the most...

Fruitcake

What's a cbc?


I am not familiar with Unethical parking's online form but I wouldn't tick a box that gave away any of my rights. The PPC have no rights over you to start with by the way.


You should be appealing on all the grounds set out in the appeal template in the NEWBIES thread. Nothing more, nothing less. The appeal should be sent around day 21 after receiving a windscreen ticket.


You can post a dead link by changing http to hxxp and someone here will convert it for you.


You can do the same with a (redacted) scan of any docs, upload them to a web hosting site such as tinypic or photobucket, then post the URL but change http as above.

The_Slithy_Tove

CBC = Contractural Breach Charge normally. At least they're clear in that.

If you don't like the Ts&Cs, then send the appeal by post. Don't forget to get a few certificate of posting at the Post Office when you do.

Herzlos

That sounds like they are denying you the ability to appeal due to unfair terms. It also looks like they are a BPA member, so complain to the BPA.

At the same time, appeal in writing; you don't agree to any of their extra terms there, and cost them a bit more to handle it.

Your first appeal will be rejected, so don't put too much effort in, the main aim is to get a POPLA code where someone who has actual rules to follow will deal with it, and with the correct wording will cancel it for you.

Just don't name the driver, or imply who it was.

Edit: if this was just a window ticket, then wait until you get something in the post.

yoyo09542

Thanks, Herzlos. Just a quick clarification though - I thought you should respond within the 28 days to window tickets and not wait for anything to come through the post? Also, I think there are grounds to appeal on unfair signage (2 contradictory signs next to each other and very dodgy yellow lines which look as if they've been wiped out) so can I still do all of that at popla?

yoyo09542

hxxp://ethicsgroup.co.uk/appeal/

Dead link as suggested by fruitcake, thanks.

ManxRed

http://ethicsgroup.co.uk/appeal/

The_Deep

A contractual breach attracts v.a.t. Have they properly accounted for it? If not it is a danages claim for a breach, no vat bur has to be a GPEOL.


Some reading.




As this is UKCPS it will probably be a contractual charge on which v.a.t. is payable. Have they accounted for vat on their paper work? If not it becomes a breach of contract and GPEOL applies More reading here


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5087925=


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5033796=


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5195437


If you suspect tax evasion go here


https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-revenue-customs/contact/reporting-tax-evasion

ManxRed

A breach is a breach and is damages, so GPEOL.

This isn't a contractual charge, so no VAT needed.