Parking Collection Services - Notice to Keeper

mr-mixalot

Good Afternoon

So my mum got a Notice To Keeper from Parking Collection Services on behalf of WY Parking Enforcement

She was going to pay the £54 fine until I saw the letter and told her I would deal with it

The strange thing is the letter refers to the NTK being 'issued following the use of a warden operated system' but no photo of the offending vehicle was included

I take it she can ignore the letter as PCS seemed to be linked to company called Debt Recovery Plus Ltd or shall I appeal and play the game

Thanks in advance

enfield_freddy

Dept recovery + and PCS are linked , they are simply debt collectors on commission , if you do not pay they do not get paid , if the parking Co decide to take you to court , they do not get paid


there website: http://wyparkingenforcement.co.uk/how-to-pay/




how to pay : All payments are processed by our agent Parking Collection Services which is a trading style of Debt Recovery Plus Ltd.


how to appeal: http://wyparkingenforcement.co.uk/how-to-pay/appeals/


yup , so a debt collection company is going to say "ok we were wrong"


do not contact them , (PCS/DR+)

mr-mixalot

Thanks for the speedy reply enfield_freddy :j

You just reinforced what I was thinking

My mum can now stop worrying :T

hoohoo

I disagree.

This will be the notice to keeper. You should appeal this, then appeal to POPLA where this can be killed off. As they failed to issue a windscreen ticket, there will be no keeper liability.

Never mention who the driver was. Always refer to 'the driver'

enfield_freddy

hoohoo wrote: »

I disagree.

This will be the notice to keeper. You should appeal this, then appeal to POPLA where this can be killed off. As they failed to issue a windscreen ticket, there will be no keeper liability.

Never mention who the driver was. Always refer to 'the driver'

much as I agree with that statement ,


so PCS are allowed to send the NTK ? and not the parking Co that issued it? , so its got to debt collection before a NTK ?


OP , when was the ticket issued , or as you did not receive one when do you think , or when do PCS say it was issued?

Guys_Dad

What did the NtK/letter say about appealing? Who to etc, dates for appeal etc.

enfield_freddy

I will guarantee that the appeal will not be back to the originating Co , it will lead to PCSs own website and an appeal to PCS , who will not forward it to the originator , PCSs appeals page: http://www.parkingcsl.co.uk/appeals/form.php


yes a debt collector is going to say "yup we were wrong" ,, look flying pigs!


the reply to your online appeal will come from PCS/DR+ with a demand for money

hoohoo

enfield_freddy wrote: »

much as I agree with that statement ,


so PCS are allowed to send the NTK ? and not the parking Co that issued it? , so its got to debt collection before a NTK ?


OP , when was the ticket issued , or as you did not receive one when do you think , or when do PCS say it was issued?

At this point in time PCS are providing a service of issuing NTKs and are not acting as a debt collector. This is in much the same way that Ranger Services offer services to Highview, CP Plus, etc. (except that Ranger rebadge as the operator, while PCS issue in their own name).

Later on of course, PCS will put their Debt Recovery Plus hat on...

enfield_freddy

however PCS are not registered under there own name with the BPA , they are registered as T/a PCS part of the DR+ group , and a closer look at the BPA website shows that they are not eligible for ticketing/self ticketing or ANPR access to the DVLA , however they are recorded by the BPA as being debt collectors .


so basically , they ARE acting as debt collectors , not as a parking Co. and have no authority to issue tickets or NTK.




so basically , as I said above , the situation , regarding appeals etc is being handled by a debt recovery company , before the chance of an appeal to the originating parking Co.

mr-mixalot

Apologies to all for not coming back sooner with answers to your questions but I've been very busy with work & family commitments

DR+ are continuing to send a letter once a month to my mum

The parking charge date was 1/8/15 however they are now asking for reduced charge of £149 as an 'offer' to her to avoid court proceedings.

The latest letter however is so badly written it smacks of a con, they say if I don't pay the reduced payment of £149 then they will demand the full amount of £149 ????

I have no acknowledged receipt or contacted them to discuss the matter

Am I still okay to do this and ride it out?

Thanks in advance

ManxRed

If they were so sure they'd win in court they'd have done it by now.

Also, as a debt collector, they can't take you to court, only the landowner or the PPC could try that. The debt collector is a third party.

Also, the moment this goes to court, the debt collector gets nothing, so it's not in their interests. Unless they scare you into paying. That's why they're threatening it.