Cyclist v Motorist that's actually worth watching

Mercdriver

ChumLee wrote: »

No you can't.

Some offences under the road traffic act you can though.

Yes you can. You can get point for speeding and most other offences. The fact that it rarely happens does not mean its impossible.

Even if you don't have a licence it goes on a virtual record in the same way as it does for foreign drivers.

Johno100

Mercdriver wrote: »

Yes you can. You can get point for speeding and most other offences. The fact that it rarely happens does not mean its impossible.

Even if you don't have a licence it goes on a virtual record in the same way as it does for foreign drivers.

How's a cyclist get done for speeding, they don't have speedometers? Yes they can fall foul of local bylaws such as speeding in certain parks and sea fronts and face a fine, but they won't get points on their driving licence.

And to say all road users are equal:rotfl:

You have an accident with a cyclist in your car and tell me which of you is required to stop and who'll be required to take a breathalyzer test?

Mercdriver

Johno100 wrote: »

How's a cyclist get done for speeding, they don't have speedometers? Yes they can fall foul of local bylaws such as speeding in certain parks and sea fronts and face a fine, but they won't get points on their driving licence.

And to say all road users are equal:rotfl:

You have an accident with a cyclist in your car and tell me which of you is required to stop and who'll be required to take a breathalyzer test?

They can be done for all of the above, it's just rare for it to happen. Was all covered on BBC radio 2 last week.

Speedometers have nothing to do with anything. If your car doesn't have a functioning speedometer is that a valid defence for speeding? No.

Section 30 Road Traffic Act 1988 says: "It is an offence for a person to ride a cycle on a road or other public place when unfit to ride through drink or drugs - that is to say - is under the influence of a drink or a drug to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the cycle.

Cyclists have been done for speeding under an old law of "cycling furiously".

Retrogamer

Mercdriver wrote: »

Yes you can. You can get point for speeding and most other offences. The fact that it rarely happens does not mean its impossible.

Even if you don't have a licence it goes on a virtual record in the same way as it does for foreign drivers.

This is complete nonsense. Even if a cyclist was cycling drunk, whilst speeding and ran someone over on their bicycle they won't get "points" because it's not possible.

Cyclists can be charged for cycling specific offences. Things such as speed limits in the general sense only apply to motor vehicles and don't apply to cyclists.

Cyclists can be fined in certain areas in the UK (as mentioned) for speeding where there are certain by laws they still don't get "points" for it.

Mercdriver

Retrogamer wrote: »

This is complete nonsense. Even if a cyclist was cycling drunk, whilst speeding and ran someone over on their bicycle they won't get "points" because it's not possible.

Cyclists can be charged for cycling specific offences. Things such as speed limits in the general sense only apply to motor vehicles and don't apply to cyclists.

Cyclists can be fined in certain areas in the UK (as mentioned) for speeding where there are certain by laws they still don't get "points" for it.

See my above amendment. Cyclists have been done under a different law that has a 2 year imprisonment as maximum penalty.

ChumLee

Mercdriver wrote: »

Yes you can. You can get point for speeding and most other offences. The fact that it rarely happens does not mean its impossible.

Even if you don't have a licence it goes on a virtual record in the same way as it does for foreign drivers.

As a cyclist you're not driving so can't be done for driving offences.

Retrogamer

Mercdriver wrote: »

See my above amendment. Cyclists have been done under a different law that has a 2 year imprisonment as maximum penalty.

That's the law which is ancient (well over 100 years old now) and hardly anyone is ever charged with because it's very difficult for the police to get a successful prosecution for it.

Mercdriver

Retrogamer wrote: »

That's the law which is ancient (well over 100 years old now) and hardly anyone is ever charged with because it's very difficult for the police to get a successful prosecution for it.

Which they did in Cambridge in 1997.

Retrogamer

Mercdriver wrote: »

Which they did in Cambridge in 1997.

If that's the most recent prosecution for it, then 1 prosecution in 18 years validates it's a difficult thing to be prosecuted for.

Mercdriver

Retrogamer wrote: »

If that's the most recent prosecution for it, then 1 prosecution in 18 years validates it's a difficult thing to be prosecuted for.

I didn't say it was either easy or common. In fact I said the opposite