P45 Part 1 a Box 7 and 8 question

sitesafe

purdyoaten wrote: »

What relevance is the part 1A to the new employer? This part of the P45 was introduced at the onset of self-assessment in order that the taxpayer had a record of each employment in the tax year for separate inclusion on the annual tax return- no other reason. That is why, at box 8, it uses the word 'this employment'.

There is a reason why the box numbers only go up to 7 on the parts 2 and 3 - the employer does not require any additional information.

Thanks - They don't want part 1a - they want me to forward wage slips from previous job since April 2015 to last week (when I left) as they think the tax paid by last employer doesn't seem right apparently..


My mentioning part 1 a is just me trying to work out what they might be looking at (I've waiting on hearing) and just out of my own curiosity wondered about the pay to date and pay in this employment and what they stood for...

sitesafe

xylophone wrote: »

The OP seems confused about tax years and calendar years.

OP, the previous tax year ran from 6 April 2014 to 5 April 2015.

Were you working for the same employer between those dates?

thanks, yes, from Dec 2014 to July 2015

sitesafe

dano17439 wrote: »

P45 only show whats been paid and deducted in the current tax year. If your not on a week1/month 1 tax code section 8 will be blank.

I think the accountant doesn't know what he's looking at!

Yes, i'm curious and can't understand why they want me to scan wageslips since April 2015 - said it was something to do with the amount of tax paid but didn't say over/under....

chrisbur

sitesafe wrote: »

Thanks - They don't want part 1a - they want me to forward wage slips from previous job since April 2015 to last week (when I left) as they think the tax paid by last employer doesn't seem right apparently..


My mentioning part 1 a is just me trying to work out what they might be looking at (I've waiting on hearing) and just out of my own curiosity wondered about the pay to date and pay in this employment and what they stood for...

Gross £4000.00 less tax allowance as at wk 16 for 1060L £3264.64 gives taxable pay of £735.36 Tax due on £735 (you ignore the pence) is £147.00 Spot on.

Also it is not their job to find out what is wrong even if the tax figure was incorrect, HMRC do that They should use the tax figure that they have calculated and if it should be any different HMRC will advise them of the correct figure to use. If on RTI any difference is picked up automatically if not should fill in item 13 on part 3 of the P45 with the figure used instead of the P45 figure.

sitesafe

chrisbur wrote: »

Gross £4000.00 less tax allowance as at wk 16 for 1060L £3264.64 gives taxable pay of £735.36 Tax due on £735 (you ignore the pence) is £147.00 Spot on.

Also it is not their job to find out what is wrong even if the tax figure was incorrect, HMRC do that They should use the tax figure that they have calculated and if it should be any different HMRC will advise them of the correct figure to use. If on RTI any difference is picked up automatically if not should fill in item 13 on part 3 of the P45 with the figure used instead of the P45 figure.

Thank you. I reluctantly sent them and now miraculously 'their accountant' has said they are actually fine after all??!!

taikedz

I've been trying to find an authoritative answer to this question, rather than just community members' wisdom, and found one HMRC/Gov UK source to back this up:

"The P45 ‘Total pay to date’ should provide the gross pay to date of all jobs worked in that tax year as long as their employers are registered for PAYE."

This is from the "P45" section of of a HMRC page (sorry I am a newly-registered user so can't post links)

Search the Internet for: hmrc TCM0118100 p45

So the answer is: Your gross income is displayed in section 7's "Total pay".

Hope that helps alleviate any lingering doubts :-)