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Macs vs Windows

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  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    mmmm , mac is a brand of computer , (owned by apple) , and it uses several operating systems ,


    apple (mac) manufacture computers


    Microsoft , the builders of windows , DO NOT make computers , they supply operating systems to be installed on sutable equipment
  • Ben84
    Ben84 Posts: 3,069 Forumite
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    I think hardware quality is a non-issue. People often say macs are better quality, but I don't agree. Macs are good quality, but then so are many other PCs.
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    Ben84 wrote: »
    I think hardware quality is a non-issue. People often say macs are better quality, but I don't agree. Macs are good quality, but then so are many other PCs.


    my granddad got arrested once


    he had a dirty mac on whilst looking thru a "window(s)"
  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 13,971 Forumite
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    Ben84 wrote: »
    I think hardware quality is a non-issue. People often say macs are better quality, but I don't agree. Macs are good quality, but then so are many other PCs.
    It depends how you define "quality", and better than what, I suppose.

    My opinion is that there is no other computer made which has the quality of finish and design as a Mac; yes they do use standard components within, but the way they put them together is unique. The Mac Pro (http://www.apple.com/uk/mac-pro/) is something else!

    And the operating system, OS X, is a high quality product; nobody could deny that.

    However, the above does place some of their products at the high-end of the price scale, and it's a choice to be made whether you think it's worth the money.

    You also have to consider after sales support, and Apples is very good; again, that's part of the quality of the product.

    So, unless anyone can point out better, I would say that Apple have the best quality product.
  • I_have_spoken
    I_have_spoken Posts: 5,051 Forumite
    Microsoft , the builders of windows , DO NOT make computers

    Apart from the Surface 3 and Surface Pro 3, obviously
  • Nada666
    Nada666 Posts: 5,004 Forumite
    prowla wrote: »
    It depends how you define "quality", and better than what, I suppose.

    My opinion is that there is no other computer made which has the quality of finish and design as a Mac; yes they do use standard components within, but the way they put them together is unique. The Mac Pro (http://www.apple.com/uk/mac-pro/) is something else!

    And the operating system, OS X, is a high quality product; nobody could deny that.

    However, the above does place some of their products at the high-end of the price scale, and it's a choice to be made whether you think it's worth the money.

    You also have to consider after sales support, and Apples is very good; again, that's part of the quality of the product.

    So, unless anyone can point out better, I would say that Apple have the best quality product.

    There is no other manufacturer whose entire range has the same attention to form - but there are vast numbers of models and lines which are just as 'designer'.

    There is nothing unique about the way they are put together - indeed, nowadays, Apple is often playing catch-up.

    After sales support is rather modest and nothing special. Some other consumer brands will attend you in your home - Apple often expects you to trudge to a store for under-warranty attention.

    And as to the emboldened statement about OS X - that is rubbish and is the one thing everyone can deny. The core OS may be sound and solid but you cannot separate the bundled Applications and state of the Finder from the background OS. And they have had many very serious quality and interface 'decisions' over several recent iterations.
  • Mr_Toad
    Mr_Toad Posts: 2,462 Forumite
    prowla wrote: »
    It depends how you define "quality", and better than what, I suppose.

    My opinion is that there is no other computer made which has the quality of finish and design as a Mac; yes they do use standard components within, but the way they put them together is unique. The Mac Pro (http://www.apple.com/uk/mac-pro/) is something else!

    And the operating system, OS X, is a high quality product; nobody could deny that.

    However, the above does place some of their products at the high-end of the price scale, and it's a choice to be made whether you think it's worth the money.


    You also have to consider after sales support, and Apples is very good; again, that's part of the quality of the product.

    So, unless anyone can point out better, I would say that Apple have the best quality product.

    When the time finally came for me to replace my aging laptop I listed what I features I needed to cut down on the massive choice available.

    Top of the list was battery life, then CPU, RAM, weight etc.

    This narrowed my choice to a more manageable list. My requirements put me in the upper price range of available laptops and I realised that half of that list were more expensive than the Macbook Pro which wasn't at the time even on my list.

    When I actually got my hands on the laptops some were excellent but some were very poor build quality, plastic and a bit too flexible and delicate for my liking.

    What brought the Macbook to the top of the list was the operating system. I've been a Linux user for years and was planning on installing Linux on the new laptop as Job number one.

    I bought the Macbook and I loved it from day one, so much so that the following year I replaced my desktop with the the 27 inch iMac.

    I'm typing this on my 2009 Macbook and it's still a good laptop. My only change has been to install a 500GB SSD. Battery life doesn't seem to have deteriorated, I can get a couple of days of light use between charges or a full day of normal use on a single charge which means I can go out and not have to take the charger and lead.

    A non Apple laptop of the same spec and quality would have cost me more.
    One by one the penguins are slowly stealing my sanity.
  • Jivesinger
    Jivesinger Posts: 1,221 Forumite
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    Machines in the shops now with Windows 8.1 should be avoided at all costs or you'll have the hassle of upgrading to 10 yourself.
    I dunno about avoiding at all costs. The machines with Windows 8.1 may be cheaper because Windows 10 is coming, so the cash saving may be worth it.

    In theory the upgrade should be easy, especially as there's a year to upgrade and it would be possible to give them a few months to perfect it before going ahead.

    That's if the OP wanted to opt for Windows over a Mac, of course.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    my granddad got arrested once


    he had a dirty mac on whilst looking thru a "window(s)"

    Genetic inheritance ? :D
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 26 July 2015 at 5:17PM
    The big question is how much do you want/have to spend and then work accordingly.
    Mr_Toad wrote: »
    When the time finally came for me to replace my aging laptop I listed what I features I needed to cut down on the massive choice available.

    Top of the list was battery life, then CPU, RAM, weight etc.

    Sensible approach from Mr Toad, top down and work to budget.

    Interestingly the OP is called AuberyMac (who has not re-appeared), are we having our tails pulled here ?
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
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