15 year old daughter going away with friends family...

Hi All


I have a question that I hope somebody can answer please as I have googled the question but only found answers from years ago, so want to know more recent rules.


My 15 year old daughter is going to Ibiza with her friend and her friends mum and dad. What I want to know is, do I need to provide them with any sort of document to give my permission for them to take her out of the country? I was thinking I would do a letter saying that I am the mother of xxx and I give permission for her to be travelling to Ibiza with Mr & Mrs xxx with my name, address, a photocopy of my passport and a telephone number. Would this be ok or would I need something more official?


Thank you in advance to anybody who can help.
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  • meandmaboy
    meandmaboy Posts: 470 Forumite
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    Hi,
    I never bothered about this when i used to take my nephew on holiday along with my son.We did this for years & one time when they were both about 15 & we were returning to Gatwick, my nephew was stopped & asked if i was his mother :mad::mad::mad::mad: I was standing behind both him & my son. I stepped forward & was told I needed a permission letter, that floored me as i had never thought about it:o:o:o:o

    I think the safest bet is too give them a letter 'just in case':eek:
    hth
  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    Hi All


    I have a question that I hope somebody can answer please as I have googled the question but only found answers from years ago, so want to know more recent rules.


    My 15 year old daughter is going to Ibiza with her friend and her friends mum and dad. What I want to know is, do I need to provide them with any sort of document to give my permission for them to take her out of the country? I was thinking I would do a letter saying that I am the mother of xxx and I give permission for her to be travelling to Ibiza with Mr & Mrs xxx with my name, address, a photocopy of my passport and a telephone number. Would this be ok or would I need something more official?


    Thank you in advance to anybody who can help.

    yes, do that (i take my nieces and daughter's friends abroad without their parents every year). Include in your permission letter that you give Mr and Mrs X authority to approve emergency medical treatment if necessary for your daughter whilst in Ibiza too.
  • lady1964
    lady1964 Posts: 975 Forumite
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    My daughter went away with a friend & the friend's mum to Sharm el Sheikh when she was 17 & I wrote a letter as described above just in case. It wasn't asked for & there were no problems but doing the letter gave all of us peace of mind so I would also recommend a letter.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    We took my DD's friend on holiday two years ago when they were 13. I had asked her mum to write a note just in case, but we were not asked either way, that despite the fact that we were travelling a family of 5 (her included) with 4 different surnames!

    To be fair, anyone could write a note and pretend to be the parent, so don't think it is worth much! By the way, children can travel on their own on some airlines from the age of 12!
  • jonesMUFCforever
    jonesMUFCforever Posts: 28,898 Forumite
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    Make sure she is covered by insurance.
  • AlexMac
    AlexMac Posts: 3,063 Forumite
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    We were stopped by border control when returning from a short driving holiday in France. They wanted to know why one of the 15-year olds on board (grand daughter's step-sister) didn't share our name/wasn't directly related.

    A simple handwritten letter of authority from her dad sufficed; they didn't bother to ring him on the number given, so you could argue that anyone could have scribbled out a fake note...

    Or indeed, as grandchildren don't automatically share their nan's name, depending on who marries who, you could say that the differing names on the passports didn't necessarily give cause for challenge.

    But I was really impressed that they checked; as it gave 'em a chance to look us in the eyes, ask Qs of her and us, and apply common sense. We obviously passed the test, but, after all, if someone was smuggling a young Romanian in to exploit 'em, I would want the bstrds caught!

    So get a parent to scribble a note; no big deal, And if you;re really paranoid, take a photocopy of their parent's passport to support that
  • KCS1503
    KCS1503 Posts: 45 Forumite
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    We took daughter's friend with us last year and on the way back through Stansted we were asked what the relationship of the friend to us was. We were told that we should have had a letter from her parents to explain that she would be travelling with us.

    It seems strange as she was 16 and could have been travelling alone anyway, but I guess to save any hassle it's worth just getting a brief letter explaining the "who and when".
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Very interesting to see the difference in scrutiny. I wonder why, maybe destination/provenance? As said, we travelled as a party of 5 with 4 different surnames. The only two who were the same were my two children who have a different name to me. No questions asked at all.

    Most amazing was on our way back as my kids stayed in our destination, so it was me, partner and DD's friend (who looks absolutely nothing like us) and still no questions were asked on either side.

    My mum was questioned once as she travelled with my kids (who were then younger) as she was coming back into the country, but she played the stressed grand'ma, apologising for not having a note from me and they just let them go with just a recommendation to do so next time.
  • theonlywayisup
    theonlywayisup Posts: 16,032 Forumite
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    Hi All


    I have a question that I hope somebody can answer please as I have googled the question but only found answers from years ago, so want to know more recent rules.


    My 15 year old daughter is going to Ibiza with her friend and her friends mum and dad. What I want to know is, do I need to provide them with any sort of document to give my permission for them to take her out of the country? I was thinking I would do a letter saying that I am the mother of xxx and I give permission for her to be travelling to Ibiza with Mr & Mrs xxx with my name, address, a photocopy of my passport and a telephone number. Would this be ok or would I need something more official?


    Thank you in advance to anybody who can help.

    What you have suggested will be sufficient, but to be completely 100% I would include all the passport numbers of people mentioned in the letter along with a statement confirming you are loco parentis. That way, any urgent medical issues can be dealt with on your say so rather than waiting to hear back from the UK.

    We hereby consent to Mr John Smith passport number 77585857 and Mrs Rachel Smith passport number 22332323 acting in loco parentis on our behalf for our child Junior Bloggs passport number 4557787 and authorise them specifically to give consent to any emergency medical treatment during their visit to Spain from 1 August 2015 to 15 August 2015 where they will be staying at Hotel ABC, Madrid.

    Signed

    Joanne Bloggs (mother) passport number 123456
    Fred Bloggs (father) passport number 23456
    of 123 High Street, Somewhere, UK.

    Dates 25 July 2015

    If you want to include photocopies of the parents passports, that would be an additional safeguard.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,377 Forumite
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    These examples sound like immigration checks. They're obviously not about making sure people don't take children out of the country without parental permission, if they're questioning people on return! What would the point of that be?

    Maybe some people try to sneak kids into the country, possibly using some other kid's passport either stolen or borrowed? And they just want an excuse to question the kid, make sure they have a British accent etc and aren't obviously foreign?
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