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Tracing a scrappage scheme vehicle purchase?

gentlepurr
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Trying to trace the details of a car that was purchsed under the scrappage scheme, does anyone know of any central records that i can access? Im just after the reg of the car that was bought, ive tried the local dealers but they have been taken over and dont go back that far??

TIA for any help :)
"It is not uncommon for slight acquaintances to get married, but a couple really have to know each other to get divorced." - Anonymous
:)

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  • Herzlos
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    You mean the new car? I doubt there's any record of it. This was only 5 years ago, so have you still got any more information on the car? Why do you need to know the registration of something you presumably sold years ago?
  • gentlepurr
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    It wasnt my car.

    Long story short -

    It was sold when the owner passed away several years ago and shouldnt have been because it was part of the deceased estate.
    "It is not uncommon for slight acquaintances to get married, but a couple really have to know each other to get divorced." - Anonymous
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  • InsideInsurance
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    So the old car or the new car?

    You're trying to trace the current owner of the vehicle or the person that sold/bought the car at the time?
  • Herzlos
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    You're trying to get the reg of the car that was bought when the old car was traded in, in order to find the current owner of the car, in order to find out who did the trade in?

    As far as I understand it, the trade in had to be done by the owner on the V5, so I don't know how that could have worked. You needed to own the car for at least 6/12 months in order to qualify.

    If you're just after a value, knowing who sold it, the trade in was worth £2000 (unless the car was worth more, in which case it won't have gone through the scrappage scheme).

    Sounds like the police need to be involved, but you might not get anywhere.
  • gentlepurr
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    Just trying to trace the registration number to prove that the car was once owned by the deceased person as the beneficiaries have only just found out that they were in the will and the assets have disappeared....

    (and no, im not a beneficiary!)
    "It is not uncommon for slight acquaintances to get married, but a couple really have to know each other to get divorced." - Anonymous
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  • gentlepurr
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    You're trying to get the reg of the car that was bought when the old car was traded in, in order to find the current owner of the car, in order to find out who did the trade in?

    As far as I understand it, the trade in had to be done by the owner on the V5, so I don't know how that could have worked. You needed to own the car for at least 6/12 months in order to qualify.

    If you're just after a value, knowing who sold it, the trade in was worth £2000 (unless the car was worth more, in which case it won't have gone through the scrappage scheme).

    Sounds like the police need to be involved, but you might not get anywhere.

    I know that the deceased person traded in their old car under the scrappage scheme for a new car. The person died a short while later and the new car that was bought under the scappage scheme disappeared. The person who disposed of the car needs to be taken to task but without even knowing the registration number of the car there is no evidence to prove it ever existed. Yes, authorities should maybe be involved but theres no evidence (yet)
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  • rich13348
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    Is the cars reg and details not listed in the will then? Also maybe contact DVLA with details of the deceased and ask for previous cars owned by said deceased?.
  • gentlepurr
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    rich13348 wrote: »
    Is the cars reg and details not listed in the will then? Also maybe contact DVLA with details of the deceased and ask for previous cars owned by said deceased?.

    If only it were that easy! The car just formed part of the estate, and no specific details were given. We cant access the info from DVLA without the authority to do so and sadly, the person who has the authority is the very person who seems to have disposed of all the assets :o
    "It is not uncommon for slight acquaintances to get married, but a couple really have to know each other to get divorced." - Anonymous
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  • AdrianC
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    edited 22 July 2015 at 3:47PM
    I'm baffled.

    If you know that there was a valuable asset owned by somebody at their death, and you can prove that neither that asset nor the money from its sale formed part of the estate, the only person who's responsible for that is the executor.

    Anything - and everything - else is irrelevant. The registration doesn't matter. The fact it was bought under scrappage doesn't matter. Whether a particular car was traded in or not doesn't matter. Even the existence of the car itself is irrelevant - the executor has every right to sell an asset and add the money raised to the estate - unless the asset is specifically bequeathed in the will ("I leave my car to xxx"). If the will specifically referred to the car which was traded in, then that clause would be void ("I leave my Ford Fiesta to xxx", but he owned a Ford Focus at the time of his death)

    B'sides, "several" years later, what resolution are you hoping to get? If you're trying to show that the executor ignored the beneficiary completely, in direct contravention of the will, that should be straightforward.
  • InsideInsurance
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    How long ago did all this happen?

    If you believe the Executor stole from the estate then call the police and report the crime to them or contact your local probate court for advice.
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