Car parking query

tomd269

I was going to post a cropped pic of our title plan to give a better idea of the situation but unsure as to the legalities of sharing title plans publicly?

DaftyDuck

It's publicly available information, so not a problem.

tom9980

tomd269 wrote: »

I was going to post a cropped pic of our title plan to give a better idea of the situation but unsure as to the legalities of sharing title plans publicly?

perfectly fine crop out any major identifying details on the plan and just show the layout.

tomd269

Can't post a link as I'm a new member :embarasse

LEJC

tomd269 wrote: »

The close is big enough for about 3 cars to park and there's only one which regularly parks there. Each of the 3 detached houses has a private driveway to fit a couple of cars, and each of our flats has an allocated space in the parking area. It's just that whenever we have parked a car in the close area, the neighbours have told us we're not allowed to park there as it belongs to them.
We've recently bought a second car which I have to leave on the road for the time being. Ideally I would park it in the close, as there's plenty of room and not in anyone's way. But at the moment of course I am being told I am not allowed to by our neighbours.
Hope this makes sense :P

sorry to pick up on something but are you saying that you have an allocated space as part of your flat and the second car that you now have is the one that you want to park in what you believe to be the overspill that is still owned by the flats...

Whilst I see your point...I think I can see it from the other side too now in as much as if your flats each have 1 allocated space if other flats get second cars where do they park....you will be all competing for 3 spaces within an area of what I assume could be termed as first come first served allocated parking.

Is it possible that these neighbours perhaps think that the space near their property should be better used for occasional visitors of all rather than routinely by someone who owns two cars in a 1 space allocated block...

Just putting a different spin on it and perhaps even playing devils advocate now that youve dropped in you have 2 cars!
Perhaps the residents of the close are putting a point across now whilst the problem is not too bad..ie trying to deter parking as they can see the potential for other flat owners to aquire 2 cars and make parking much more difficult for all.

tomd269

Always good to have a devil's advocate of course.

I see your point, and if that was the general consensus I would be happy to leave the car on the road.
To be honest I would be happy if it was made a visitor's parking area. What irked me was the fact that when we did have a visitor, we were told "no one from our block of flats was allowed to park there as it belongs to the detached houses".
As I said, we would be happy to share it with them, but for them to "tell off" both us and our visitors for using, what seems to be, our own parking area doesn't sit right with me.

LEJC

How about a residents meeting to air the views from both sides.....it does seem as if the problem does have the potential to escalate and clearly now you have 2 cars its something that you would like clarification on.

I suspect the residents of the detached houses or at least some of the more vocal feel that perhaps you shouldnt be parking your second car there.
If you were to arrange an informal discussion with all then at least if things turn a little more unpleasant further down the line you cant be accused of not tying to suggest a solution.
Perhaps arrange something whereby you invite all the flat owners and the house owners to a local pub or similar for a discussion...those who dont want to attend dont need to(its possible that if the other flat owners only have one car or none they wont be intersted in the slightest) but you might get a one to one with the home owner who has put up the signs and clearly has an issue and its their opportunity for a reasonable discussion

tomd269

As I've only met one of the three neighbours an informal meeting is the route to go I think.

I've only parked my own car there once, at which point I met the neighbour and received a stern telling off. I made no mention of the fact that it was a second car, and have parked it round the corner on the road ever since. The only car that does routinely park in that area every day in fact belongs to one of the 3 houses.

Always better to take the high ground on these things.

bouicca21

It doesn't matter how many cars OP has - if the space doesn't belong to the houses, then they really shouldn't be complaining about how it is used.

My ex hated it when people parked outside our house. It was a public road and they were perfectly entitled to do so, but for some reason he felt proprietorial about it. Is that perhaps what the house owners feel?

Edited to add that my next door neighbour (ground floor flat) told everyone that only he had the right to park on the drive outside his flat. Total nonsense as the lease is quite clear that there is no allocated parking (there was no need as there are garages that would have been ok in the distant past but are too small for modern cars). Being loud and belligerent, he's got his way.

LEJC

Who's responsible for the maintenance of the road where the excess cars can be parked....is that your responsibility as leaseholders of the flats and form part of your management costs or has the road been adopted by the council....
If you as in the flat holders maintain it then there is a stronger case for you asking the home owners to stick to their drives....perhaps if its shared maintenance then thats where the animosity might be coming from...

Either way you need to speak to the vocal neighbour in the first instance armed with your evidence...the easiest way to do this is via a residents meeting so things cant get too out of hand.