MPs 10% pay rise - snouts in the trough

Landofwood

Tromking wrote: »

....and that reply says a great deal about you too.

And that reply says a lot about you

Mistermeaner

I guess the snp members are turning this down?

PasturesNew

Landofwood wrote: »

I think that says more about you than them.

Many wages have remained stagnant/fallen. The job I was doing back then was recently advertised - at the same wage I was getting 20 years ago.

enthusiasticsaver

stator wrote: »

I'm not against it, if it attracts more decent people to the job. At the moment parliament is filled with rich toffs who don't even need the money. Perhaps the poor pay is putting decent human beings off.

I do not agree with this. £64000, the existing mp is a much better than average salary - it is hardly poverty pay. Also I do not think it will make much difference to who comes into parliament. They do not warrant a 10% pay rise on top of their expenses account and housing allowance. It should be linked to public sector pay. I have just signed the Change.org petition as I am that angry about the fact that I as a public sector employee get 1% and they get 10%. We are not all in this together when so many other things are being cut and they get a £7k payrise.

Landofwood

enthusiasticsaver wrote: »

I do not agree with this. £64000, the existing mp is a much better than average salary - it is hardly poverty pay. Also I do not think it will make much difference to who comes into parliament. They do not warrant a 10% pay rise on top of their expenses account and housing allowance. It should be linked to public sector pay. I have just signed the Change.org petition as I am that angry about the fact that I as a public sector employee get 1% and they get 10%. We are not all in this together when so many other things are being cut and they get a £7k payrise.

64k is very low for an intelligent, skilled hard-working person.

This is why intelligent, skilled hard-working people are not becoming politicians.

Jon_B_2

£64k is absolutely peanuts. The only people who moan are those are those on minimum wage or as near dammit.

Guess what? The national minimum wage is going up 9% next April. It's hardly an unfair pay increase for MPs. Suck it up and stop the politics of envy.

TheBlueHorse

Landofwood wrote: »

I'd like to live in a society where the politicians are the highest paid people in the country. Imagine a country that is being run by the best and brightest.

Instead, the only people who go into politics are those who already have money. Eton schoolboys with no comprehension of the real world.

why do you assume that the pm and say, chancellor are not that bright, when they have been to the best schools and best universities?

the likes of Eton doesn't take anyone just because they are rich. They have standards. They don't want rich idiots bringing that down.


You have to be both rich and clever to get in.


Do I want my PM to have been to Eton and Oxford or Dagenham Comp and London Met? I think you know the answer.

TheBlueHorse

the public sector don't just get the 1% salary increase. They also get another increase each year just for simply being there. Ok, the ones at the very top of their scale don't get it, but they are overpaid anyway.


Essentially, they are told, you have been here another 12 months and therefore here is more money irrespective of your performance. Oh, and btw, you get another 1% pay rise on top of that pay rise.


They've never had it so good (except when Brown was in charge)

Generali

shaggydoo wrote: »

Agree. MPs should be paid much more so that we get a greater range of folk. As you rightly point out keeping pay so low is a means of the rich keeping their hands on power. For example, Cameron is the 5th great grandson of William 1V - Osborne the son of a Baron - Boris the descendant of European royalty - etc etc...... In the end I bet they're all some how related to William the Conqueror and his Earls and Barons and that nowt much has changed in 1000 years.

If you go back 7 generations then I would guess that quite a lot of people are related to a king. There was a decendent of Henry VIII that I knew a bit when I was younger. He was at state school with me. Had the name Tudor IIRC.

Jon_B_2

TheBlueHorse wrote: »

the public sector don't just get the 1% salary increase. They also get another increase each year just for simply being there. Ok, the ones at the very top of their scale don't get it, but they are overpaid anyway.


Essentially, they are told, you have been here another 12 months and therefore here is more money irrespective of your performance. Oh, and btw, you get another 1% pay rise on top of that pay rise.


They've never had it so good (except when Brown was in charge)

Shhh. Don't want to ruin their argument.

Even when their pay increases were frozen, many were still getting their 2% increments whilst the private sector were offering at least half that.