MPs 10% pay rise - snouts in the trough

prowla

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33552499

RUN_RABBIT_RUN

yeah they basically engineered the creation of a quango to do the dirty work for them, so they can shift the blame to that evil ipsa giving them all a £7k payrise

it's not like the pay has been static all this time -

Increase date Basic salary Jan 1996 £34,085 Jul 1996 £43,000 Apr 1997 £43,860 Apr 1998 £45,066 Apr 1999 £47,008 Apr 2000 £48,371 Apr 2001 £49,822 Jun 2001 £51,822 Apr 2002 £55,118 Apr 2003 £56,358 Apr 2004 £57,485 Apr 2005 £59,095 Apr 2006 £59,686 Nov 2006 £60,277 Apr 2007 £61,181 Nov 2007 £61,820 Apr 2009 £64,766 Apr 2010 £65,738 Apr 2013 £66,300 Apr 2014 £67,060

stator

I'm not against it, if it attracts more decent people to the job. At the moment parliament is filled with rich toffs who don't even need the money. Perhaps the poor pay is putting decent human beings off.

shaggydoo

stator wrote: »

I'm not against it, if it attracts more decent people to the job. At the moment parliament is filled with rich toffs who don't even need the money. Perhaps the poor pay is putting decent human beings off.

Agree. MPs should be paid much more so that we get a greater range of folk. As you rightly point out keeping pay so low is a means of the rich keeping their hands on power. For example, Cameron is the 5th great grandson of William 1V - Osborne the son of a Baron - Boris the descendant of European royalty - etc etc...... In the end I bet they're all some how related to William the Conqueror and his Earls and Barons and that nowt much has changed in 1000 years.

TheBlueHorse

David Davis grew up in a council house.


The pay though is fair depending on who gets it. Perhaps you should get more the longer you do it and the more experience you have? Why should this 20yr old know nothing MP be on the same salary as someone who has been doing it for 20 years and actually knows what they are doing?


Maybe the party should be given a lump sum and the leader can apportion it as they see fit.

kabayiri

stator wrote: »

I'm not against it, if it attracts more decent people to the job. At the moment parliament is filled with rich toffs who don't even need the money. Perhaps the poor pay is putting decent human beings off.

I'm not sure I see evidence of better people coming in.

Run_Rabbit's figures show a doubling of salary since '96.

Coincidentally in that period of time many MPs made a stack of money from house flipping, and the majority made the most of the loosest expenses system one could ever imagine.

They might not have arrived in government as a grade A trougher but a lot of them learn't pretty quickly.

chris_m

TheBlueHorse wrote: »

Why should this 20yr old know nothing MP be on the same salary as someone who has been doing it for 20 years and actually knows what they are doing?

Because she hasn't spent twenty years working out how to screw the system for as much as possible?

NICHOLAS_2

In all seriousness i don't think that their pay in itself is over the top, it's all of the expenses on top of the 74k that make it over the top.

I'd like to have more of an insight into what the MP's get up to in an 8 hour day before i fully made judgement.

chris_m

NICHOLAS wrote: »

In all seriousness i don't think that their pay in itself is over the top, it's all of the expenses on top of the 74k that make it over the top.

Ah, but part of this 10% increase is at a cost of reduced expenses, rejigged pension scheme and reduced severance payments when they get voted out.
According to IPSA, the overall cost to the country will be unchanged.

TBH, MPs getting 50% more than someone who just drives a train through a hole in the ground isn't that excessive, IMO.

Running_Horse

If we are to be a functioning democracy it has to be paid for, and the job of MP deserves a decent salary. They should once and for all link their pay to a basket of typical jobs and benefits, and then share in the success or hard times of those they govern.

They should also get a one off big pay rise, but no more bonuses; I want my MP voting on laws and helping constituents, not claiming for paper clips. Then we can stop having this infantile debate every single year. Seriously, I remember the same thing in the 1980s, and it was probably always thus.

Tromking

Most if not all of the weak a s s justifications for this rise you could probably apply to all public sector workers. This will probably end my participation in the democratic process.