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cayennepepper

Hello, we want to apply for planning for two different projects, one being making our existing loft conversion bigger and the second one extending the lower ground floor. Both need planning as we have already used most of our PD allowance.

We are thinking of doing a pre-planning application first to get an idea of what our chances are.

My question is, should I do one pre-planning application for both projects at the same time or do one at a time? I am thinking that by doing them together I might save on fees but we could be turned down more easily? Whereas if I do one at a time, I might get at least one approved?

Thoughts please?

brightontraveller

cayennepepper wrote: »

Hello, we want to apply for planning for two different projects, one being making our existing loft conversion bigger and the second one extending the lower ground floor. Both need planning as we have already used most of our PD allowance.

We are thinking of doing a pre-planning application first to get an idea of what our chances are.

My question is, should I do one pre-planning application for both projects at the same time or do one at a time? I am thinking that by doing them together I might save on fees but we could be turned down more easily? Whereas if I do one at a time, I might get at least one approved?

Thoughts please?

Look around you area does anyone have both? If they do a president of sorts is set ? If they are more or less likely to pass both or individually really is a coin toss local authorities vary and so do the reasons for denying or accepting,

You could also check previous applications for your area online see what the success rate is for one or both etc prior to applying,,,

cayennepepper

I did that and found nothing to compare it with unfortunately. Thanks anyway

System

what have you used up your pd allowance with?
Are you planning on breaking the roofline with the loft works?
the preapp would be as well to be done as one, you don't get "turned down" with a pre-app, they just identify areas of the local plan which it may or may not accord with and advise on that - tbh, most of the time a formal pre-app is not particularly useful as they are so non-comital in their advice

cayennepepper

the_r_sole wrote: »

what have you used up your pd allowance with?
Are you planning on breaking the roofline with the loft works?
the pre-app would be as well to be done as one, you don't get "turned down" with a pre-app, they just identify areas of the local plan which it may or may not accord with and advise on that - tbh, most of the time a formal pre-app is not particularly useful as they are so non-comital in their advice

The PD allowance was used to convert the garage into habitable space and build an extension on top, plus loft conversion with dormer above original dwelling. No, we are not planning to break the roofline, but we want to do a loft conversion with dormer above the extension.

We are going for the pre-planning advice first to get an idea of what our chances are, without spending too much. We have been quoted £2K just for the loft drawings, excluding planning fees. Make that double for both projects. Not cheap!

Thanks for your input.

Doozergirl

Find a different architect!

For pre-app, you only need rough sketches anyway. No point in drawing up full plans until you've got feedback and made a decision.

£4k is excessive unless you wat something pretty special.

Furts

Local councils typically run planning surgeries a number of mornings each week. One books an appointment and pays a nominal fee for the Planning Officers time - typically £50-£75. Go armed with lots of photos of your home, the neighbours, the street scene, sketches and discuss matters. This gives an idea on what is possible for little outlay on professional fees.

cayennepepper

Sorry Doozergirl, I wasn't clear, I meant the full planning fees are £4K, not the pre-app. I am going to see one of the planners next week and take it from there, thanks everyone