Problems at work

Poppypopstar

Hi, I hope I am posting in the right place as I am new to the forum but could do with some advice. Without going into full details the issue is as follows. I raised a grievance at work in February 2015 in relation to an issue where my professional registration was suspended because of failures due to my manager in October 2014. I have been off work on the sick since this date as been unable to work due to the registration issue. The grievance has finally been concluded yesterday which was completely upholded in my favour. The manager in question is still employed. I am confused what happens now, does the manager just get away with things and is my complaint swept under the carpet?. I have only been receiving 1/2 sick pay and I do not feel any of this is my fault. The question is can I take this further or request compensation?

Thanks for reading

Poppy

pmlindyloo

Am confused. Why were you off sick during this time? Need more information, sorry.

jobbingmusician

Have you tried pointing out to your employer that as a result of their error you have received only half pay for this period, and suggesting that they make the pay up? The complication is of course that you stated you were sick. Was your sickness documented as work related stress, in which case I would guess (and is IS a guess) that you might have a case for full pay?

Poppypopstar

Ok, sorry for the vagueness, I'm trying not to be identified. Ok so I was off sick because I am required to hold a professional registration for my role so therefore I could not do the job. They did not offer an alternative. The management was not providing the required documents to the regulator so therefore it dragged on and on for 9 months until it has been resolved. I was off with stress due to the situation. My work have barely kept in contact with me, such as not responding to calls/ emails from me and letters from the regulator. This is why I raised the grievance which has just concluded in my favour but the director has not said what will happen next and when I asked I was asked what would I like to happen. They want me to return to my original role but the management I raised the grievance about are still there. If there is anything I've missed please ask and I will try to add to this. It's quite a long story. Thanks for your reply

WestonDave

What happens to the manager is almost always confidential between the employer and them - it may well be that they have been given a warning of some kind but that is not something which you have any right to know.


In terms of compensation - it is possible that having had the grievance decided in your favour, you could now suggest that it would be equitable for them to make up the lost earnings. However a bit of balance is required - you are being reinstated at your full role which other than financial compensation about all you can expect. If you want to go down the personal injury route for compensation for the stress, you probably won't get much more than the lost earnings but you will set up a conflict with your employer which may not be good for having a pleasant working atmosphere.

Poppypopstar

Thanks very much for your reply, I'm completely clueless when it comes to this sort of thing so much appreciated

TBagpuss

What do you want them to do?

The manager is still there - they may have decided that his/her actions so't justify dismissal and they would not tell you if the manager is or has been disciplined, given a warning or improvement plan, as that would be confidential.

Is this person your line manager? Would it be possible for someone else to take over the role as your immediate line manager, or alternatively for there to be a specific person you can speak to if you have any issues in future?

Has the process for ensuring that professional registration is up to date been reviewed? i.e. are there now measures in place to stop this type of thing happening again?

Undervalued

Poppypopstar wrote: »

Ok, sorry for the vagueness, I'm trying not to be identified. Ok so I was off sick because I am required to hold a professional registration for my role so therefore I could not do the job. They did not offer an alternative. The management was not providing the required documents to the regulator so therefore it dragged on and on for 9 months until it has been resolved.

Sorry, but that is not a reason to be off sick. Either you were sick (and certified as sick by your doctor) or you were not.

If you could not work due to a technical registration problem then either you should have been given alternative work or put on garden leave (if it was the firm's fault) or maybe on unpaid leave if it was your fault.

I was off with stress due to the situation. My work have barely kept in contact with me, such as not responding to calls/ emails from me and letters from the regulator. This is why I raised the grievance which has just concluded in my favour but the director has not said what will happen next and when I asked I was asked what would I like to happen. They want me to return to my original role but the management I raised the grievance about are still there. If there is anything I've missed please ask and I will try to add to this. It's quite a long story. Thanks for your reply

Ultimately it is up to the firm how they discipline (or not) the manager you really have no say in the matter and certainly can't demand he is moved. He may have been issued with a formal warning or the firm may not be very bothered about what he did wrong (if indeed he did).Obviously if he behaves incorrectly again (in your opinion) you can raise a further grievance but that is about all.

I appreciate it is difficult but sadly these situations often don't end well. Regardless of the rights and wrongs it maybe best to look for another job.

Poppypopstar

Can I ask why you think I don't have long to go with this company?

Undervalued

I'm not sure if you are asking me or QS however, as we both said much the same thing......

Clearly the firm did not feel the manager was sufficiently at fault as to warrant his dismissal. Or, worse, they did but decided he was more useful to them than you!

Regardless of fault, they have had to deal with various difficulties around you, your registration, sick leave etc. They also must realise that they are putting you back into a difficult situation and that the problems have a good chance of continuing. They know that the most likely outcome is that you will leave and they are presumably quite happy for that to happen as they probably see it as the easy way out.

Sorry to be so blunt but that is how the majority of these situations pan out in real life. Sadly few companies put integrity ahead of the bottom line and / or an easy life.

patman99

When you do return to work, you may well find that the manager actively stays out of your way as they may well have got a big rollocking over what has happened.