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Help with tax credits and overtime!

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  • Miroslav
    Miroslav Posts: 6,193 Forumite
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    bloolagoon wrote: »
    Should that not be £3850'PLUS disability element (which isn't frozen)?

    You can probably tell i've been left confused by all of this. I never knew how they worked out my WTC in the first place. I just accepted what they told me was right.

    I currently earn approx £8,000 p/a and receive approx £69 p/w tax credits which includes the disability element, so approx £3588 p/a.

    My understanding is I can earn £3850 per year before my tax credits are affected. Then, every £1 over £3850, I lose 48p in the £ of my tax credits, so with me aiming to earn £4150 over £3850, i'd lose 48% of my tax credits.

    Or have I, as per usual, got it toally wrong?
  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    Miroslav wrote: »
    You can probably tell i've been left confused by all of this. I never knew how they worked out my WTC in the first place. I just accepted what they told me was right.

    I currently earn approx £8,000 p/a and receive approx £69 p/w tax credits which includes the disability element, so approx £3588 p/a.

    My understanding is I can earn £3850 per year before my tax credits are affected. Then, every £1 over £3850, I lose 48p in the £ of my tax credits, so with me aiming to earn £4150 over £3850, i'd lose 48% of my tax credits.

    Or have I, as per usual, got it toally wrong?

    AIUI (no expert) the disability elements of WTC (£2970 basic plus £1275 severe disabled) are added to your basic allowance - the basic changes on things like couple / single etc)

    Those allowances are still there and also will not be frozen.
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  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    No. As mentioned earlier, the disability element is reduced by income just the same as the other elements.

    Otherwise any disabled person could claim WTC disability element regardless of income.

    I know it's reduced by income but still added to the amount before deductions isn't it? Ie the taper happens at a higher threshold.
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  • Miroslav
    Miroslav Posts: 6,193 Forumite
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    Yes that is correct however it doesn't start until April 2016 which is 2016/17.

    Assuming you work less than 30hrs and arent on the severe disability element, I'd estimate you'd get £56 per week.

    So, when you say it doesn't start until April 2016, does that mean awards for 16/17 will be based on the higher threshold and we won't see the effects of the lower threshold until 17/18 or is it based on estimated earnings for 16/17 and we'll see cuts as of April 16?
    bloolagoon wrote: »
    AIUI (no expert) the disability elements of WTC (£2970 basic plus £1275 severe disabled) are added to your basic allowance - the basic changes on things like couple / single etc)

    Those allowances are still there and also will not be frozen.

    It would be nice if they only included the threshold as before any disability elements, but sadly I don't think so.
  • Miroslav
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    It will affect all payments from April 2016.

    I thought so.

    So how will overtime work? Will there be some kind of disregard? i.e If I do 50 hours overtime for the year, will I see all that 50 hours pay, or will I lose 48% of it in Tax Credits thus affecting 17/18 or meaning I have an overpayment?
  • Miroslav
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    The disregard next year will be £2500. That means in 2016/17 you can earn an extra £2500 from 2015/16 without being overpaid.

    You'd then have your payments reduced from April 2017

    Eg in 2015/16 you earn £8000 2016/17 you earn £10000.

    Your 2016/17 claim will be paid based on £8000
    Your 2017/18 claim will be paid based on £10000 (subject to your income for 2017/18).

    Hmmmm, so it's not going to pay much to do any overtime if I lose it long term as I won't get to see all the money. I don't really want any anyway as it affects my health but have done some to help my company out. Had I been in good health, then it may be different.

    Still 17/18 is some distance away and circumstances may change by then.
  • Miroslav
    Miroslav Posts: 6,193 Forumite
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    In my opinion, work as many hours as possible or you are capable of and get off tax credits.

    Easier said than done I know but with how bad the system is getting, I wouldn't want anything to do with it.

    I think working the hours I am capable of is the way to go but I won't push my health too far.

    Starting from my next pay day on the 25th, i'm going to save my WTC and see how I survive with just my wages. I've already started changing the ways I do things and buy things, so maybe some good can come out of this. Not that I was a big spender before mind.
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