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Out of work families getting Working Tax Credit ?
GSG1
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Hi all
I'm trying to make sense of the Working Tax Credit data
In my borough at Dec 2013, there were
9,800 families claiming Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit,
2,600 families claiming Child Tax Credit only,
2,700 families claiming receiving the childcare element,
2,200 familes with no children receiving Working Tax Credit, and
10,000 out of work families claiming Working Tax Credit
Who are the 10,000 out of work families claiming WTC? All the eligibility criteria (below) indicate that someone in the household has to be working, except for out-of-work families with children claiming CTC – it can’t be them, because there are 2,600 of them.
I don’t understand this – can anyone clarify it?
“CTC brings together income related support for children and for qualifying young people aged 16-19 who are in full time non-advanced education or approved training into a single tax credit, payable to the main carer. Families can claim whether or not the adults are in work.
WTC provides in work support for people on low incomes, with or without children. A family will normally be eligible for WTC if it contains one of the following:
• a single person who is responsible for a child or young person and works at least 16 hours a week
• a couple who are responsible for a child or young person, and who jointly work 24 hours or more per week (NB one adult must be working at least 16 hours)
• a person who is receiving or has recently received a qualifying sickness or disability related benefit and has a disability that puts them at a disadvantage of getting a job, and who works at least 16 hours per week
• a person is aged 60 or over and works at least 16 hours per week
If none of the above applies, then a person will still be eligible for WTC if they are aged 25 and over and work 30 hours or more a week.
I'm trying to make sense of the Working Tax Credit data
In my borough at Dec 2013, there were
9,800 families claiming Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit,
2,600 families claiming Child Tax Credit only,
2,700 families claiming receiving the childcare element,
2,200 familes with no children receiving Working Tax Credit, and
10,000 out of work families claiming Working Tax Credit
Who are the 10,000 out of work families claiming WTC? All the eligibility criteria (below) indicate that someone in the household has to be working, except for out-of-work families with children claiming CTC – it can’t be them, because there are 2,600 of them.
I don’t understand this – can anyone clarify it?
“CTC brings together income related support for children and for qualifying young people aged 16-19 who are in full time non-advanced education or approved training into a single tax credit, payable to the main carer. Families can claim whether or not the adults are in work.
WTC provides in work support for people on low incomes, with or without children. A family will normally be eligible for WTC if it contains one of the following:
• a single person who is responsible for a child or young person and works at least 16 hours a week
• a couple who are responsible for a child or young person, and who jointly work 24 hours or more per week (NB one adult must be working at least 16 hours)
• a person who is receiving or has recently received a qualifying sickness or disability related benefit and has a disability that puts them at a disadvantage of getting a job, and who works at least 16 hours per week
• a person is aged 60 or over and works at least 16 hours per week
If none of the above applies, then a person will still be eligible for WTC if they are aged 25 and over and work 30 hours or more a week.
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Can you provide a link to the stats you have quoted from?
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10,000 out of work families claiming Working Tax Credit
Who are the 10,000 out of work families claiming WTC? All the eligibility criteria (below) indicate that someone in the household has to be working, except for out-of-work families with children claiming CTC – it can’t be them, because there are 2,600 of them.
I don’t understand this – can anyone clarify it?
I have not looked at the data.
However, I suspect what you're missing is those families that are entitled to WTC run-on having recently become unemployed.
They may move back into employment before WTC stops.0 -
I'd expect it to be CTC. There are no stats for this on your list.Tomorrow is the most important thing in life0
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[/QUOTE]2,600 families claiming Child Tax Credit only, [/QUOTE]
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It seems a very big number though, compared to all the others. I would have thought those getting the WTC run-on would be far less than the other numbers, not more than them!rogerblack wrote: »I have not looked at the data.
However, I suspect what you're missing is those families that are entitled to WTC run-on having recently become unemployed.
They may move back into employment before WTC stops.
I suspect a typo, maybe they meant JSA?0 -
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If so it's wrong - those who are working but above the WTC limit still claim WTC, and it can affect the amount of CTC they get. It says "claiming" not "receiving".bloolagoon wrote: »2,600 families claiming Child Tax Credit only,
Yes, look at the reduced number - severely indicating those above the WTC limit. Nationally CTC only is the most common and some get as little as £10 a week.
There's clearly a mistake somewhere.0 -
If so it's wrong - those who are working but above the WTC limit still claim WTC, and it can affect the amount of CTC they get. It says "claiming" not "receiving".
There's clearly a mistake somewhere.
It just makes more common sense than out of work claiming WTC.Tomorrow is the most important thing in life0 -
I think we need the OP to link to the source document. The figures as they are don't really make sense.
Zagfles is right, all tax credit published statistics are about claims and not actual receipt - so people above the WTC threshold who are working would still be entitled to WTC even if their income is too high to claim it. Same with CTC people on nil awards.
I suspect there is just a mistake in it somewhere.
IQ0
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