IDS, "Disabled People Will Be Treated With 'Kindness'" ?? (how will he shield them?)

gemmaking

What does this mean for disabled people?
Treated with kindness?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/06/22/iain-duncan-smith-benefits-labour-buy-votes-kindness-_n_7637040.html

What do you think, your predictions?

how do you think he will shield the most vulnerable disabled people? from being hit from these cuts coming up, under the Tories ?

Which 'types' of specific people is he referring too? (in any special welfare groups or categories ?

lemontart

means he is smiling smugly as he pulls your wheels, support of any sort to aid being part of the world pro-actively and any kind of existence from under you

lemontart

this bit defo puzzles me given that a major aid to some for being able to work is independant living payments which are going so I hear and why there were protesters in parliament tomorrow,

"Our purpose is to reform welfare to get people back to work and ensure those who cannot and cannot manage and have disabilities are treated with the utmost kindness and utmost support."

CTcelt1988

In other words he is going to be cruel to be kind, which means cutting benefits.

rogerblack

Work will set you free.

missbiggles1

rogerblack wrote: »

Work will set you free.

Godwin's Law in only four posts!

rogerblack

The earlier post is perhaps a little ungenerous.
I am not suggesting IDS wishes to kill anyone.
Merely that he is willfully blind, and prone (either alone, or following orders) in making policy based on the sound-bites about existing benefits, rather than the actual entitlement conditions.
He is so busy staring into the glorious future of universal credit that he's gotten a little blind.

The scary part for many will be the code-phrase 'the most vulnerable'.
'The most vulnerable' in the past have been protected by having the support component of ESA increasing at CPI when most of their money comes from the frozen rate that is at the same as JSA, and the claim made that they are protected.
They have been protected by 'focussing on the most vulnerable' on PIP - and removing eligibility for a large number.
In general, this phrase has in the past meant that people in the work-related group of ESA are not protected in the same way.

'The work group is for the less severely ill, who are likely to be able to with support find work in the near future'. The unfortunate part is that the policy is formed on the basis that the one sentence descriptions are accurate.


On this basis - it's not quite unreasonable to time-limit the benefit to a year if it's contributory.

But there are many who will be in this group for life due to their condition (absenting legislative change), and whos likelyhood of employment is tiny, even if they are 'encouraged' by stopping their benefits. (only if they have no other income, and are not part of a couple)
The group names and short descriptions are basically meaningless.
What is important is the legal tests to get into each group.

They may have had the intent of making the descriptions accurate when they started out on the legislative process - but it's very much not this way anymore.

For example - if you have an injury and can't put your hands into either shirt pocket, you are entitled to the support group.

But if you have multiple complex disabilities that will essentially prevent you ever working, if you don't quite meet the criteria for the support group, you can end up at best in the work-related group.

Someone can be found fully fit, for example if they use a wheelchair, and can't walk, can slowly wheel themselves over 200m. Only work for 90 minutes at a time before becoming utterly exhausted. Have difficulty conveying or understanding more than simple messages from strangers. Once every couple of months has a sudden accident where they lose control of their bowels. Can barely operate a washing machine. Several hours a day can't cope with trying to talk to new people.

nannytone_2

do you think that IDS will consider me to be 'wilfully blind' ?

colin13

he will smile as he takes all our benefits away

faerielight

I am so terrified of the cuts.. it's like the Dementors are coming

KxMx

I can stomach a freeze in the level of payments but anything else... well i'll be screwed that's for sure.