Landlords Keys

jjlandlord

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

So, you'd happily send a contractor to your tenants home at 4am if that was convenient with you and you'd given them 24 hours notice?

4am is not a "reasonable time of day" and thus would not be part of the landlord right of access in any case.

I'd say you should stop digging.

lovinituk

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

No more or less unlikely than a leaking roof.

I thought trust was your thing?

If you really can't see the difference then you probably shouldn't be trying to give advice.

I'll leave you and your childish ner ner ner ner ner arguments to it. I'm only interested in the opinions of the grown ups here.

lighting_up_the_chalice

SaLoGo wrote: »

Just to answer this as it is aimed at me. No, my lease does not state anything about changing the locks, so I haven't breached the agreement. And no, I am not hiding anything. I haven't refused access. I came home to an email to state that they had tried to gain access to do the inspection and couldn't get in and could I call to discuss. When I called she advised me they had sent a letter, a letter I haven't received. I have no problem with them doing an inspection. I have a problem with them accessing my home without my consent or knowledge. Had they emailed or called in the first place I'd have arranged to be in to give them access.As I said, I am not being difficult.

Seems reasonable. But, as some have assumed that tenants protecting their privacy implies that they have something to hide, I wonder what they would think of LLs snooping round their tenants home when they aren't in? What are they "hiding", I wonder?

lighting_up_the_chalice

Innys1 wrote: »

Applying this logic, the postman should have keys to all the houses on his round, as should the milkman, dustman and window cleaner.

I agree. That's why I think it far better if LLs don't have keys, or if tenants change the locks when they move in.

lighting_up_the_chalice

jjlandlord wrote: »

4am is not a "reasonable time of day" and thus would be part of the landlord right of access in any case.

I'd say you should stop digging.

Would? Or would not? Do you want to borrow a spade?

SaLoGo

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Seems reasonable. But, as some have assumed that tenants protecting their privacy implies that they have something to hide, I wonder what they would think of LLs snooping round their tenants home when they aren't in? What are they "hiding", I wonder?

Everyone is entitled to privacy, even tenants! Doesn't automatically mean something is being hidden. I'm not sure anyone would be comfortable with anyone snooping round their home.

lighting_up_the_chalice

SaLoGo wrote: »

Everyone is entitled to privacy, even tenants! Doesn't automatically mean something is being hidden. I'm not sure anyone would be comfortable with anyone snooping round their home.

I agree. But apparently, we are in the wrong. Being a tenant means giving up all rights to privacy. Your LL can have 24 hour access to your home as long as they give you 24 hours notice. So, if he tells you today that he'll be popping round "sometime next week", don't be too offended to wake up and find him at the foot of your bed early one morning. It his right, after all. And LL's rights will always trump T's rights, such is their distorted sense of feudal entitlement.... Unless, of course, you inform yourself.

jjlandlord

No-one said that tenants were not entitled to privacy.

Typical of some internet forums to have people completely ignore what is actually being written.

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Would? Or would not? Do you want to borrow a spade?

Thank you for pointing the spelling mistake.

Now it is corrected and you can learn something.

lighting_up_the_chalice

jjlandlord wrote: »

Thank you for pointing the spelling mistake.

Now it is corrected and you can learn something.

I put it down to a Freudian slip.

AleMrsT

SaLoGo wrote: »

Just to answer this as it is aimed at me. No, my lease does not state anything about changing the locks, so I haven't breached the agreement. And no, I am not hiding anything. I haven't refused access. I came home to an email to state that they had tried to gain access to do the inspection and couldn't get in and could I call to discuss. When I called she advised me they had sent a letter, a letter I haven't received. I have no problem with them doing an inspection. I have a problem with them accessing my home without my consent or knowledge. Had they emailed or called in the first place I'd have arranged to be in to give them access.As I said, I am not being difficult.

Ah, in that case, I agree with you. (I work for a letting agent). Ask them for proof of postage for the letter they sent (most agents use email these days as it is easy to keep the sent item for proof that it was sent), and say that until they can agree to confirm ALL appointments with you IN WRITING,24 hours prior to them taking place, as they are required by law to give you required notice, then you are not in a position to provide them with a key, as they have already shown that they are willing to breach your quiet enjoyment of the property.