Yale Lock without Latch???

Daronfitz

Hi,


I'm looking for a yale type lock with no internal latching mechanism, that I can fit to a wooden front door.

My MIL has Alzheimers and used to keep putting the latch on her previous Yale lock and leaving the key in the secondary Chubb lock, preventing us from accessing her in an emergency. I removed the Yale lock and we managed to stop her leaving the key in the Chubb but now she has started to leave the door wide open.

We'd like to put a new latchless Yale on but I can't find any online that don't have a latch.

Any suggestions???

DaftyDuck

You used to be able to get a Yale (possibly a Chubb) with latch on the inside, but it also had the keyhole as well, and I believe you could lock the latch. In fact I'm sure of it: we fitted one like that because we had an old wooden door with a single window, and worried that someone could open the door by breaking said window and using the latch....

I've just had a poke round on the Yale site... no sign. It looked just like the night latches they show, but meatier, with keyhole on both sides....

Sympathies, by the way, my mum had it too...


Edit

Bit like the Chubb 1097 pictured HERE at the bottom of the page... 1098 probably the larger version....


Edit

THIS???

Reece_

Do you mean she was operating the snib, that stops the latch being opened by a key from outside?
It's pretty simple to take out the snib function of a nightlatch if you open it up. Or a roller bolt nightlatch could be an option? These don't have snibs but would require actively locking from the inside by turning the handle.

Daronfitz

Hi all,


Thanks for the replies. Think I'll have a go at disabling the snib - seems like the easiest option at the moment.

AlexMac

If you take the lock off, carefully disassemble it (without losing any springy bits!) and look at the 'snib' mechanism you should find it really easy to disable that bit-

...possibly by simply sawing off a tiny bit of metal; an easy DIY job with a cheap hacksaw and (if you don't havea vice) a pair of grips or pliers to hold it while you saw.

I had an old lock of this type, and the snib would drop down sometimes when being slammed and lock me out. After having to smash and replace the adjacent glass pane twice, I did this tweak; and if you mess up, a new lock back doesn't cost the earth; and you can keep the same barrel and key. Just make sure you do it when the shops are open!