Clueless to drilling and buying new drill!

fluffy123

Hello - hope you can help me a bit of a clueless me out!

Just bought a new house and needing to buy a new drill just to hang up a new largish mirror, hang up some glass shelves,a kitchen utensil rail on the walls etc.

I'm a bit clueless to drilling (to my shame as a 35 YO) so unsure as to what I'll need and how to do it all.

Was looking at something like this? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7106907.htm and then buying the 100 piece drill set with it as I'm assuming I'll need it?

One of the large mirror also doesn't come with any screws etc so I'm a bit wary as to what I'll need to buy to resolve this.

Also, planning in the near future to hand up a new shower rack but that'll involve drilling into tile....even more for me to worry about!

The real thing is even when I get this new drill, I'm wary of how to use it, what to do for each of these jobs

MX5huggy

Your proposed drill is fine unless you have solid brick or stone walls. Then you really need a drill with a hammer function.

http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Product/partNumber/2580580.htm
But don't use the hammer function on the tiles, I am sure there are you tube videos on drilling tiles. With all drilling it's about assessing what the wall is made of an using the appropriate fixing for the wall type and the thing you are fixing. Does the mirror have brackets or a wire to hang it?

Silk

fluffy123 wrote: »

Was looking at something like this? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7106907.htm and then buying the 100 piece drill set with it as I'm assuming I'll need it?



The real thing is even when I get this new drill, I'm wary of how to use it, what to do for each of these jobs

If you are going to be drilling into brick walls at some stage, you need a drill that has got a hammer action. You might as well buy one that has that feature, the one you quote doesn't seem to have that.
Some of the larger B&Q stores seem to have demonstrations of how to do some basic jobs from time to time and may be worth checking out.

martinsurrey

If your not going to use it much, I wouldn't bother with a cheap cordless, by the time you've used it a few times over the next few years the battery will have degraded and it'll be useless.

much rather go for something like this

http://www.screwfix.com/p/direct-power-dpb084drl-750w-percussion-drill-230v/97572#product_additional_details_container

not the best drill in the world, but your not the best handyman either!

It'll not degrade over time, it'll do everything a basic DIY-er would ever want, and its as cheap as chips.

as for drill bits, buy the one you need for each job.

for hanging a mirror on a solid wall you'll 99% need a 6mm masonry drill bit (to use red wall plugs). Its better to buy good drill bits you need, rather than buy a cheap set and only use 2 pieces, that break after 3 holes.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-6-x-100mm-extreme-2-masonry-drill-bit/73770

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-plastic-wall-plugs-red-4-5mm-pack-of-300/41044

so you're sorted for under £30.

MX5huggy

I agree about the battery but the problem with the corded drill is that it is no use as a screwdriver.

martinsurrey

MX5huggy wrote: »

I agree about the battery but the problem with the corded drill is that it is no use as a screwdriver.

"The lockable variable speed is very useful, allowing it to be used for screwdriving."

not as useful as a good cordless, but we're talking about 4 screws every now and again, even the old manual screwdriver would be good enough!

fluffy123

Thanks for all your help. The mirror just has a hole in the back for a screw to rest in, if that makes sense? No screw or anything came with the mirror so I'll have to guess what is appropriate? It's not particularly heavy though.

Noted about the hammer drill, I would be drilling into brick as I need to remove some brackets on the walls outside as they are rusted and new ones will be required to hang up garden baskets.

After just having a quick look around. I've found the following:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-80001-500-Watt-Power-Hammer/dp/B000UQMKHU/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1433414175&sr=8-9&keywords=Corded+drill

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-2609255462-Masonry-Drill-Pieces/dp/B0025VKOWG/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1433413866&sr=8-12&keywords=Drill+bit++set

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Piece-Wood-Drill-Bit/dp/B0014182VI/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1433413866&sr=8-13&keywords=Drill+bit++set
I would also need to buy tile drill bits as well I guess.


Does this seem okay?

Le_Kirk

When drilling into or through tiles, use a piece of masking tape over the area to be drilled and mark the centre point of your hole on the tape. The masking tape helps to prevent the drill bit slipping all over your tiles. Invest in a Tungsten tipped tile drill. They are quite small in diameter (4 -6 mm from memory) and start the hole with that. If your new drilling machine has a variable or slow start, use that to prevent slipping. Keep the drilling machine square to the tile. When the drill bit breaks through the tile, keep drilling for a bit longer. Switch to the next size up masonry drill bit and open up the hole in the tile and into the wall behind it. Drill just further than the length of the wall plug you are going to fit. Open up the hole to the final size, drilling again just further than required. Then very carefully, slightly open up the hole in the tile ONLY then, when fitting your wall plug, make sure you punch it in so it is below the level of the tile. This will prevent the tile cracking when you insert and tighten up the screw. Good luck.

londonTiger

cordless drill is going to be quite slow, I have an 18v drill and I only use it for drilling into wood - wouldn't dream of doing anything on walls with it - not that it can't handle it but it would be very slow. For jobs requiring lots of holes it's going to be dedious.

A corded power drill with a long 3m+ lead is preferable.

RS2000.

londonTiger wrote: »

cordless drill is going to be quite slow, I have an 18v drill and I only use it for drilling into wood - wouldn't dream of doing anything on walls with it - not that it can't handle it but it would be very slow. For jobs requiring lots of holes it's going to be dedious.

A corded power drill with a long 3m+ lead is preferable.

My 18 volt Makita's will drill wall ok, however for more than on into block or brick work its. SDS.

Ruski

Well just to rock the boat, forget about buying all these different 'type' of drill bits, just use these for all occurances, wood, tile, masonry (no need to use hammer action), plastic, everything basically.

I never use anything else.

HTH

Russ