inheritance and benefits

billywilly

tea-bag wrote: »

Shakes head! This is becoming so frequent on this forum, nobody ever wants to pay for themselves anymore.

In my case why should I if the government in their wisdom are willing to pay me to take our weekly income to over £700 a week? Moral or immoral, who cares as long as it is carried in a legal manner.I've gone way past caring what other people think after reading on this forum that people will make benefit claims not because they need the money but because they are entitled to it.

billywilly

bloolagoon wrote: »

And yet benefit fraud statistics are low so clearly they rarely get caught.

Caught doing what? Using the system to their own advantage?

And yes the OP's friend's sister is thinking of carrying out a fraudulent act.But in so much as she is doing it to obtain benefits by failing to disclose the full and proper situation.

Just because her friend 'thinks' or 'knows' what she wants to do, does NOT mean that she is a party to it.

If she 'thinks or knows' that her sister is going to buy a huge stash of drugs with her inheritance and sell it at a massive profit, does not mean that her friend is in anyway involved because she is the Executor and gives her the money to carry out the act.

missbiggles1

I'm really beginning to think that Andy/Billy starts some of these trolling threads himself in order to blather on and advise people badly.

billywilly

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I'm really beginning to think that Andy/Billy starts some of these trolling threads himself in order to blather on and advise people badly.

No I get fed up with people trying to avoid telling posters how to solve the problem instead of telling that they are involved in a crime committed by someone else when they aren't.

Why are posters so anti benefit culture?
As long as there is a way that people can get round the rules and regulations legally they should be advised of that and how to do it.

No one comes on here to be told to use an inheritance to live on, they should be helped, using the law, to AVOID having to do that!

fredandwilma

billywilly wrote: »

There is no deprivation involved except in your mind probably.

It's called 'financial planning'.

It's no different to what Cameron's father did with his will. When he died he only had £300,000 left in the bank. The rest (£multi millions) was held in family trusts and banks registered in Panama.
Or maybe Tony Benn, when he died his must valuable asset went straight into a family trust so no inheritance involved there.

To leave yourself wide open to being attacked by the DWP, HMRC or the LA is stupid if you have the option to put into place, a system that defeats them.

It's called fraud.






It's there for all to see in black and white, in a public place.






(also see post 12.)

Ames

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I'm really beginning to think that Andy/Billy starts some of these trolling threads himself in order to blather on and advise people badly.

As I've just said on another thread, the fact that he's stayed around longer than most of the Andy AEs gives legitimacy to his misinformation. A newbie would see his reasonably high post count and high thanks rate and believe the 'advice' that he's giving. Starting threads and trolling would make that problem worse.

goaty100

If you don't want to inherit you can pass it on to someone else. Its called a dead of variation which allows you to legally change a will after death.


See the government website for details (I cant post a link)

calleyw

goaty100 wrote: »

If you don't want to inherit you can pass it on to someone else. Its called a dead of variation which allows you to legally change a will after death.

That part is perfectly ok and legal. And no one is disputing that.

its the bit about giving away the inheritance so they can continue to claim benefits that is the sticking point here.

As has already been said deprivation of capital/assets comes in to play. And the person as has already been said if caught will be with out benefits and the inheritance. So not sure what they think they are going to live on.

The person who is giving away the inheritance is aware that the DWP do look at wills and can see if a deed of variance has been used.

Yours

Calley

SnooksNJ

billywilly wrote: »

There is no deprivation involved except in your mind probably.

It's called 'financial planning'.

It's no different to what Cameron's father did with his will. When he died he only had £300,000 left in the bank. The rest (£multi millions) was held in family trusts and banks registered in Panama.
Or maybe Tony Benn, when he died his must valuable asset went straight into a family trust so no inheritance involved there.

To leave yourself wide open to being attacked by the DWP, HMRC or the LA is stupid if you have the option to put into place, a system that defeats them.

I was unaware David Cameron and his family are on benefits.

billywilly

goaty100 wrote: »

If you don't want to inherit you can pass it on to someone else. Its called a dead of variation which allows you to legally change a will after death.


See the government website for details (I cant post a link)

But it doesn't defeat the Deprivation Rules. That method only works for tax purposes.