Police Vs Cyclist

RS2000.

arcon5 wrote: »

I didnt think red lights were an obligation for cyclists? Of course its usually outright reckless to ignore them, but didnt think it actually was an offense, let alone one you can be ticketed for.........

Some sections of the road traffic act, in particularly when talking about traffic signs and signal refer to a person driving or propelling a vehicle.

RS2000.

Again to clarify your point.

The cyclist is arrested for failing to comply with the traffic light as that is the offence committed. The reason for the arrest is refusing to provide his name or address.

Wig

Hi, thanks guys for your answers, much obliged.

And I guess if Mr anonymous went before a judge he would be held in contempt of court if he does not identify himself.

RTA 1988 S36 says "traffic signals must be obeyed by persons driving or propelling a vehicle"

Dictionary definition of "vehicle" includes a bicycle - I checked
This why red lights don't apply to pedestrians or horse riders. As mentioned by someone above.

RS2000.

Wig wrote: »

Hi, thanks guys for your answers, much obliged.

And I guess if Mr anonymous went before a judge he would be held in contempt of court if he does not identify himself.

RTA 1988 S36 says "traffic signals must be obeyed by persons driving or propelling a vehicle"

Dictionary definition of "vehicle" includes a bicycle - I checked
This why red lights don't apply to pedestrians or horse riders.

It would be more what the act rather than dictionary says but mechanically propelled and motor have been omitted before vehicle.

Wig

I think ''motor vehicle' is defined in the Act but not sure about "vehicle".

If a term is not defined within an Act then the courts go with the generally accepted definition.

Cornucopia

AIUI, PACE S.24 relates only to Police constables.

Other prosecuting authorities (HSE, HMRC, RSPCA, Benefits Agency, TV Licensing) do not have the capability to compel name and address details. It would probably only make a potential difference to interview outcome for RSPCA or TVL, since the other agencies would presumably already know who you are and where you live.

Also compulsion rules for PCSOs are different.

RS2000.

Wig wrote: »

I think ''motor vehicle' is defined in the Act but not sure about "vehicle".

If a term is not defined within an Act then the courts go with the generally accepted definition.

A cycle is defined under vehicles in the road traffic act.

“cycle” means a bicycle, a tricycle, or a cycle having four or more wheels, not being in any case a motor vehicle.

Wig

Therefore a unicycle would be ok to go through redlights. and a skateboard? Scooter? Street Luge?

RS2000.

Wig wrote: »

Therefore a unicycle would be ok to go through redlights. and a skateboard? Scooter? Road sledge.

Try it and let us know.

The dictionary refers to a vehicle as a conveyance so you can be the test case.

Norman_Castle

Car_54 wrote: »

Not quite all. Pedestrians and horse riders do not require to obey traffic lights.

So jumping them isn't an option.