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Parking Notice - Newbie help

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Hi, I'm new to this forum and overwhelmed with the information; and how to navigate the forum.

In any event I am hoping some kind soul will be able to help. I have received a notice from a PPC relating to a retail park but this notice refers to a previous notice which I have not received.

I am not sure if there is really any point in taking the PPC to task over this as I am sure it will simply escalate paperwork and take up more time.

Should I simply write to them in response to the letter treating it as first notice of the alleged charge but make reference to the fact that this is the first letter I have received; or is it possible that they are now out of time for trying to impose a charge i.e. is the onus on them to prove postage?

Many thanks in advance for any assistance.
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    just send the template letter from the NEWBIES sticky thread and mention in the appeal that this is the first time you have heard about this charge, so are appealing it accordingly

    do not mention who the driver is, or may have been, appeal as KEEPER only

    they have 6 years to pursue this, so there is no "out of time" for 6 years as such
  • PaulD1978
    PaulD1978 Posts: 8 Forumite
    Redx thank you for this. I've seen the letter so will use this.

    Kind regards
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    dont look for an "easy get out" , if you watched watchdog last night you would know this is a sc@m where rules tend not to apply, they just want your money

    once you have appealed it, complain to the managing agents or owners of the retail park, with copies of receipts or bank statements, trying to get the charge cancelled
  • PaulD1978
    PaulD1978 Posts: 8 Forumite
    Hi, so I wrote to G24 with the suggested letter and noted that I had not received the letter which they claim to have sent.

    They have replied saying the period for appeal has ended and that we now have two options:

    1. Pay them; or
    2. Do nothing and they will seek payment through debt recovery procedures and may proceed with Court action against us.

    Can anyone help with the next step, please?
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    ok , the notice that came thru your door , was it called a Notice to Keeper?


    what date did it arrive , and what date was the alleged offence , was it an ANPR camera , or a ticket on your car
  • PaulD1978
    PaulD1978 Posts: 8 Forumite
    We received a "FINAL NOTICE" letter dated 26 May alleging an offence on 21 March and referring to a "Contractual Parking Charge Notice" dated 31 March (not received).

    It was an ANPR camera.
  • ColliesCarer
    ColliesCarer Posts: 1,593 Forumite
    edited 8 June 2015 at 11:55AM
    You could try to find out when G24 accessed the keeper details from the DVLA by writing a complaint asking for the information.

    If they didn't get your keeper details soon enough to send a Parking Charge Notice dated 31st March you will have proof such a notice could not have been sent on the date claimed.

    p.s. G24 filed ZERO court claims in 2014 (source FOI request 96114)
  • PaulD1978
    PaulD1978 Posts: 8 Forumite
    I think it was implicit in my letter to them that I wanted proof of the original CPCN. They have chosen to ignore that. Do I simply respond stating that they have not provided evidence of the original CPCN.

    The "FINAL NOTICE" took 3 days to arrive. On the basis that they claim to have written on 31 March, I am unlikely to have received it until 3 April. I received the "FINAL NOTICE" on 29 May and responded the same day. I understand that you have 28 days to appeal and should be issued with a POPLA number so surely there is an outside chance that I made the appeal within their timescales in any event.

    I'm sorry if I'm rambling, I'm just not really sure what the next steps are. I will take them to task over the CPCN but as unscrupulous as these companies are I'm sure they haven't stooped to the level of skipping straight to "FINAL NOTICE" so they must have produced a CPCN whether or not they posted it, or it was lost in transit; so if I write and find that they did produce one I'm no further on - I'm just thinking a couple of steps ahead.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,367 Forumite
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    You won't get a POPLA code from G24 as they are now a member of the IPC, with a seriously questionable 'independent' appeals service. Odds stacked heavily against the motorist.

    You could spend a disproportionate amount of time trying to squeeze a formal rejection of your appeal, to give you access to the IAS, but frankly you'll be going from one uphill struggle, to an even greater one.

    Ignoring this - although you'll be receiving debt collector letters (all totally powerless) for a while - is probably the best course of action now.

    You might get 'threats' of 'court' from the debt collectors, but they can't issue court papers to you, only G24, their solicitors or the landowner. G24 have never taken a motorist to court.

    Only you can make the final decision on how you progress this.

    HTH
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • PaulD1978
    PaulD1978 Posts: 8 Forumite
    It looks like it's time to ignore. Thanks all for your advice.
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