ESA Rates?

stroodes

I understand what you are all saying but just because a person is healthy doesn't mean they need less to live on.

Scarla

Thank you Tomtontom, that sounds about right.

He is in the support group.

Also, whilst I am here can I ask about medicals. He last had one in the summer, is it likley he will be called again soon. I don't think he has been informed how long these new medical awards last for.

rogerblack

stroodes wrote: »

I understand what you are all saying but just because a person is healthy doesn't mean they need less to live on.

I am unable at the moment to cook properly, and am relying on ready meals. Getting these, rather than ingredients is more expensive.
I'm unable to get out and find bargains.
I'm unable to do favours for friends, and get favours done in return.
I'm unable to find even short-term work.
I'm unable to walk relatively short distances to get any cheap stuff I find online.
I am relying on a static income and do not have reliable stuff purchased from a period of higher income, nor can I borrow in expectation of work in the future.


While no, not all people on ESA are so effected, even in the absence of specific needs, relying on a subsistance benefit for a long period reduces your resources of everything. Stuff you bought that might have been readily replaceable if you were earning is not.

In addition, ESA has been reduced in real terms by around 2.5% already, due to the 1% uprating, rather than CPI.

scootw1

The amount of jsa does needs raising as it barely covers costs especially if you are a single person who has a 2 bed flat so fall into the bedroom tax category. It's an existence not really a life. And before anyone has a go and says its short term, yes it is supposed to be but jobs are not as easy to come by and so you may be on it a while. And I do realise the money has to come from somewhere and I would say a bit extra from the wealthy. 73 pound a week to cover all bills and food, toiletries etc, water, TV licence (62 a week if payingbedroom tax) is, quite frankly, a complete and utter joke.

fredandwilma

tea-bag wrote: »

ESA should be the same a JSA I don't understand why it is more. It is just a incentive for fakers and scroungers.

stroodes wrote: »

I understand what you are all saying but just because a person is healthy doesn't mean they need less to live on.

merlin68 wrote: »

He just thinks, that anyone claiming sickness or disability benefits is a faker or a scrounger.
What he doesn't seem to get is that illness or disability can hit one at any time.

rogerblack wrote: »

I am unable at the moment to cook properly, and am relying on ready meals. Getting these, rather than ingredients is more expensive.
I'm unable to get out and find bargains.
I'm unable to do favours for friends, and get favours done in return.
I'm unable to find even short-term work.
I'm unable to walk relatively short distances to get any cheap stuff I find online.
I am relying on a static income and do not have reliable stuff purchased from a period of higher income, nor can I borrow in expectation of work in the future.


While no, not all people on ESA are so effected, even in the absence of specific needs, relying on a subsistance benefit for a long period reduces your resources of everything. Stuff you bought that might have been readily replaceable if you were earning is not.

In addition, ESA has been reduced in real terms by around 2.5% already, due to the 1% uprating, rather than CPI.

I'm never quite sure if comments like those from tea-bag or stroodes are posted just to cause an argument or more like, they've never been in the position of being "unhealthy." Sick, ill, disabled, less able bodied, or whatever you like to call it. Like it's been said, illness can strike anyone at anytime.




Like rogerblack says, there can be many increased costs from being "unhealthy." Relying on ready meals because you can't cook is something that has to be done if circumstances dictate. There's no meals on wheels service available, anymore.


Add the increased cost of heating or additional water you may need (through extra laundry,) having to employ someone for healthcare tasks, household cleaning, gardening, maybe simple everyday tasks. Additional adaptations, equipment needed to help you function. Exist, even. The list is endless.


It's the sort of crass comment you can encounter every day from people who are fortunate to be more "healthy." Until you are in that position, you have no idea what is involved, and until then, I would be very thankful. I hope I've given you some idea of the increased costs involved.




Your health is the most precious commodity you have



Maybe we should just throw all the "unhealthy" people to the lions and have done with it?

merlin68

Frankly im geting sick of nasty comments. This board is for help not judgement. I was told by someone that i could work with severe lung and joint disease and it was my fault if i was living in poverty.
If you ring esa up they will tell you how long the award is for i think the max is 3 years.
Your right about extra costs, My dla goes on a motability car and petrol as i cant walk to bus stops. Then i have to have heating on all the time and get all my shopping delivered, i also go to a lunch club twice a week, so get a decent meal then. i also have to have everything chemical free which is more expensive. If i go out i pay for someone to come with me.