Tesco self scan

geerex

Cycrow wrote: »

thats unlikely to happen however, it would be very difficult to tell what time and even what till the wrong coupon came from.

Except, of course, that their till system knows EXACTLY which till took which payment type and when. Still, its unlikely they'll chase someone for £1, depending on the level of abuse though, all they'll do is require authorisation for every coupon.

Cycrow

geerex wrote: »

Except, of course, that their till system knows EXACTLY which till took which payment type and when. Still, its unlikely they'll chase someone for £1, depending on the level of abuse though, all they'll do is require authorisation for every coupon.

Sorry, but you are wrong. The tills will know what coupons they took, but they wont be able to match the wrong coupon with the till.

if you say have 10 people using the same type of coupon, 9 of them use it properly, the other uses a blank piece of paper.

when the coupons are counted, you wont be able to tell which of those 10 people didn't use the correct coupon

geerex

Cycrow wrote: »

Sorry, but you are wrong. The tills will know what coupons they took, but they wont be able to match the wrong coupon with the till.

if you say have 10 people using the same type of coupon, 9 of them use it properly, the other uses a blank piece of paper.

when the coupons are counted, you wont be able to tell which of those 10 people didn't use the correct coupon

No, you're wrong. Are you seriously suggesting a retailer has know way of knowing which till took which coupon? :rotfl:

The till system knows which till took which coupon and when. I presume you've looked at a receipt? Payment types, items purchased, date and time. All there.

As long as the retailer keeps each "till"'s money separate, its incredibly easy to identify a missing coupon. Its either there, or it isn't. Whether large retailers still do this, or aggregate all takings prior to counting, I don't know.

Of course, if ten people used the same coupon (type/value) at the same till, that's a different matter.

Still, you are wrong. If they wanted to look into it, they could very easily.

clarryd

JJG wrote: »

You could also walk into the store. Pick up a small item. Put it in your pocket and likely walk out without paying. Stealing is pretty easy most of the time. You don't need to submit a fake coupon to do it. The majority of the population are honest enough though.

I agree whether your stealing goods from the shelves and putting them in your pocket or stealing due to extra scanning of money off coupons it still all the same, it's stealing and that makes you no better than a common criminal.

George_Michael

geerex wrote: »

No, you're wrong. Are you seriously suggesting a retailer has know way of knowing which till took which coupon?

They will know which till took which coupon but this doesn't mean that they will have any way of identifying which customer did or didn't put the coupon into the relevant slot.


The Tesco self checkout points have a slot into which used coupons are pushed and all of these coupons go into a large receiving box in which they are not kept in any order. (you can look into the slot and see a big pile of deposited coupons).
If more than one customer scanned a coupon but only one deposited it afterwards, there is no way of telling who did and didn't do it correctly. (unless video is used and even that might be very inconclusive).

Cycrow

geerex wrote: »

No, you're wrong. Are you seriously suggesting a retailer has know way of knowing which till took which coupon? :rotfl:

The till system knows which till took which coupon and when. I presume you've looked at a receipt? Payment types, items purchased, date and time. All there.

As long as the retailer keeps each "till"'s money separate, its incredibly easy to identify a missing coupon. Its either there, or it isn't. Whether large retailers still do this, or aggregate all takings prior to counting, I don't know.

Of course, if ten people used the same coupon (type/value) at the same till, that's a different matter.

Still, you are wrong. If they wanted to look into it, they could very easily.

no they couldn't, i used to work at Tescos, and part of my job was in the cash office, cashing up tills.

you cant tell what till the coupons come from. when the tills are cashed up, all the coupons from all the tills are put together into a bag. This bag is then sent away each week, where they are sorted and counted. This is not done in store

so if there was a coupon missing, we wouldn't even know what day it was from, let alone what till and at what time.

Sometimes you may spot an incorrect coupon, but most of the time you wont

Azari

Cycrow wrote: »

you cant tell what till the coupons come from. when the tills are cashed up, all the coupons from all the tills are put together into a bag. This bag is then sent away each week, where they are sorted and counted. This is not done in store

I'm amazed that they even bother to check the physical coupons - given that they have already been checked by being read electronically.

Presumably this is some accounting of tax requirement?

Or does this just apply to coupons issued by other companies who will want proof of use, rather than those issued by Tesco themselves?

JReacher1

Azari wrote: »

I'm amazed that they even bother to check the physical coupons - given that they have already been checked by being read electronically.

Presumably this is some accounting of tax requirement?

Or does this just apply to coupons issued by other companies who will want proof of use, rather than those issued by Tesco themselves?

Tesco issued vouchers are only one use anyway so even if you keep them you can't use them again.

A 3rd party voucher needs to be redeemed with that company so that tesco get their money back. Therefore they have to keep the coupon.

geerex

Azari wrote: »

I'm amazed that they even bother to check the physical coupons - given that they have already been checked by being read electronically.

Presumably this is some accounting of tax requirement?

Or does this just apply to coupons issued by other companies who will want proof of use, rather than those issued by Tesco themselves?

They get sent off to NCH or similar for the retailer to be reimbursed. "Checking electronically" tends to just be a barcode which is scanned, all the barcode does is tell the till system how much to deduct etc.

Azari

JReacher1 wrote: »

Tesco issued vouchers are only one use anyway so even if you keep them you can't use them again.

In some cases you can if you are prepared to do something dishonest.

It's another systemic failure, but, as the amount you would gain is so small, I doubt Tesco would be that bothered. They may even be aware of the trick.