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Drp debpt recovery plus ltd - help!!!
ashy_
Posts: 8 Forumite
Hello,
In February I received a camera ticket from UKPC - the first thing i did was go online...found out they’re a bunch of scammers!!!
However, I sent them the template letter found on this forum "a). The sum does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss..." right now, apparently I owe them £149.99.
They replied with:
"as per BPA code of practise, point 22.7 the time to challenge the charge has now expired and therefore access to an independent appeals service if applicable is no longer available.
The question is subject to terms and conditions which are stated on signs throughout the area. Those signs state there is a time limit at the site. On xxxx you parked longer than the time limit stated and a pcn was correctly issues as a result.
The signage on the site is sufficient and is in line with the guideline laid down by the BPA.
I draw your attention to the landmark decision made by the court of appeal in ParkingEeye vs Beavis 2015. Following a judgement made by three senior judges - it was ruled that was no extravagant or unconscionable blah blah blah - we believe similar conditions apply.
This case has set a precedent in England and wales and therefore you are still refusing to pay the charge then I strongly agree you seek professional legal advice.
I must also stress that simply sending internet template responses, most likely obtained from the internet will not resolve the matter.
If not paid by 15/05/2015 we will recommend to our client that a court action be taken blah blah"
please note I have shorted the letter.
What can I write back...?
As I have gone through the forum and have not seen a similar issue.
All your comments will be helpful!
Ash
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In February I received a camera ticket from UKPC - the first thing i did was go online...found out they’re a bunch of scammers!!!
However, I sent them the template letter found on this forum "a). The sum does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss..." right now, apparently I owe them £149.99.
They replied with:
"as per BPA code of practise, point 22.7 the time to challenge the charge has now expired and therefore access to an independent appeals service if applicable is no longer available.
The question is subject to terms and conditions which are stated on signs throughout the area. Those signs state there is a time limit at the site. On xxxx you parked longer than the time limit stated and a pcn was correctly issues as a result.
The signage on the site is sufficient and is in line with the guideline laid down by the BPA.
I draw your attention to the landmark decision made by the court of appeal in ParkingEeye vs Beavis 2015. Following a judgement made by three senior judges - it was ruled that was no extravagant or unconscionable blah blah blah - we believe similar conditions apply.
This case has set a precedent in England and wales and therefore you are still refusing to pay the charge then I strongly agree you seek professional legal advice.
I must also stress that simply sending internet template responses, most likely obtained from the internet will not resolve the matter.
If not paid by 15/05/2015 we will recommend to our client that a court action be taken blah blah"
please note I have shorted the letter.
What can I write back...?
As I have gone through the forum and have not seen a similar issue.
All your comments will be helpful!
Ash
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did they give you a popla code with your UKPC rejection ?
if not, report them to the BPA by email with copies of correspondence and the timeline too
details in the NEWBIES sticky thread
IGNORE DRP
as for the BEAVIS case, its going to be appealed at the SUPREME COURT0 -
I must also stress that simply sending internet template responses, most likely obtained from the internet will not resolve the matter.
Where else would internet template responses be sent from ........ other than 'most likely obtained from the internet'?
Cerebral, or what?Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Its not entirely clear but are you referring to one or two letters?
Did UKPC supply a POPLA code with their rejection of your appeal to them?
As far as DR+ are concerned they are simply debt collectors and can be ignored. You are no under any obligation to answer to them and if you do it would be wise to accept that all that will happen is that you will receive extra letters - because they know they have a live fish on the hook.
Debt collectors as a whole are parasites who do not get paid unless they can brow beat you into doing so. In these circumstances they have probably just been paid a couple of quid to send you a threatening letter. They certainly will not have bought the debt.My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
did they give you a popla code with your UKPC rejection ?
if not, report them to the BPA by email with copies of correspondence and the timeline too
details in the NEWBIES sticky thread
IGNORE DRP
as for the BEAVIS case, its going to be appealed at the SUPREME COURT
thanks for your reply, and no they did not send a POPLA code, shall I write back stating I have not recieved a POPLA code and you will be reported to the BPA, also shall I state that 'threatning be with the BEAVIS case is unprofessional and quite dumb due to the fact no precedant has taken place whislt it is being appealed in the high court.0 -
Its not entirely clear but are you referring to one or two letters?
Did UKPC supply a POPLA code with their rejection of your appeal to them?
As far as DR+ are concerned they are simply debt collectors and can be ignored. You are no under any obligation to answer to them and if you do it would be wise to accept that all that will happen is that you will receive extra letters - because they know they have a live fish on the hook.
Debt collectors as a whole are parasites who do not get paid unless they can brow beat you into doing so. In these circumstances they have probably just been paid a couple of quid to send you a threatening letter. They certainly will not have bought the debt.
Hi, i have not received a POPLA code, shall i write back to them? i know i am a newbie - but just for clarification , if ignored (as ive gone through some posts and it states NOT to ignore them?!) there will be no pending court action?
If i did write back shall i state i will report them to the BPA and BEAVIS case is irrelevant as its going to be appealed in the supreme court.0 -
Its not entirely clear but are you referring to one or two letters?
Did UKPC supply a POPLA code with their rejection of your appeal to them?
As far as DR+ are concerned they are simply debt collectors and can be ignored. You are no under any obligation to answer to them and if you do it would be wise to accept that all that will happen is that you will receive extra letters - because they know they have a live fish on the hook.
Debt collectors as a whole are parasites who do not get paid unless they can brow beat you into doing so. In these circumstances they have probably just been paid a couple of quid to send you a threatening letter. They certainly will not have bought the debt.
second letter from them sorry!0 -
May I suggest that the template letter be headed with "Notwithstanding ParkingEye vs. Beavis" to cut their argument off at the roots?
Maybe a paragraph along the lines of "I don't believe that ParkingEye vs. Beavis applies in this case on the grounds that there is no indication on your signage that you have any kind of contractual obligation with the landowners. Besides, the case is on hold pending a further appeal to the Supreme Court."?0 -
Dont worry about Drp there only a toilet paper manufacturer, try the pulp they have sent you, it may come in handy if you get caught short.:rotfl::money:PPCs say its carpark management, BPA say its raising standards..... we all know its just about raking in the revenue. :eek:0
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thanks for your reply, and no they did not send a POPLA code, shall I write back stating I have not recieved a POPLA code and you will be reported to the BPA, also shall I state that 'threatning be with the BEAVIS case is unprofessional and quite dumb due to the fact no precedant has taken place whislt it is being appealed in the high court.
report UKPC to the BPA for a lack of popla code in breach of the BPA CoP, plus as you have appealed they should not be involving debt recovery
atatch copies of all the paperwork too
post #6 of the NEWBIES thread deals with this
and did I say IGNORE DRP ?
oh yes, I did, so look up the word IGNORE and do what it says as far as DRP are concerned (for the next 6 years if necessary)0
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