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Confused.... about to purchase used car... proabably VW Golf

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  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
    For work commute - its 35 mile round trip, then weekend it may be 10 or 50-200 miles round trip.



    Round trip isn't a very useful measure - what you're saying is your trip to work is 17 miles. Then the car sits and goes cold, then another 17 miles.


    That is not great daily use for a modern diesel.
  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=2.0+tdi+conrod+failure&spell=1
    77,800 references should be enough to get you going.

    When they let go, the bill is not going to be a penny less than £3k at a budget garage.



    That's not a great way to reference though, is it? At least half of the first 10 results are in reference to 1.9TDis, not 2.0.
  • tedted
    tedted Posts: 460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    that is because the bxe engine is 1.9 ltrs
  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
    tedted wrote: »
    that is because the bxe engine is 1.9 ltrs

    Yes, you're correct, I was wrong on that one - but the point in question was the accusation levelled at the 2.0TDi in relation to conrods, and that was what the poster above was trying to prove was evidenced by their Google search.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2015 at 6:48PM
    Diesel at less than 15-20K a year = big potential bills.


    Diesels need to be used properly, or they will rapidly turn into money pits.
    My old Vauxhall Movano 2.2lt TD van had done 51k in 13 years so averaging less than 4k miles a year and it never once let me down.

    I had it serviced once a year and apart from tyres etc the only thing I had to replace was the side loading door mechanism and the air mass sensor.

    I would have another Skoda Octavia if they weren't so boring ,like all VAG group cars ,they look ok but the interiors are about as exciting as an Ed Milliband dinner party.....

    I really don't see the appeal of VAG cars especially the Golf's, why do people buy a Golf in 2015 that looks like the Gold from 2005?. Even the Skoda Octavias (which are great family cars and I've had 2) look pretty much the same today as they did back in 2002. Its like the designers can't be @rsed to make the effort to jazz up the design...

    Go for a newer Petrol Ford Focus Titanuim or above, decent cars, decent interiors and at least it looks different from the old Focuses...
  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
    My old Vauxhall Movano 2.2lt TD van had done 51k in 13 years so averaging less than 4k miles a year and it never once let me down.

    I had it serviced once a year and apart from tyres etc the only thing I had to replace was the side loading door mechanism and the air mass sensor.

    Pretty sure the 2.2 only came in the first generation Movano from late 90s to 2004 or so, so it'd be unlikely to be fitted with the emissions control kit which is the source of most of the expensive problems which blight more modern diesel cars. The old Renault g series engines were based on legacy diesel technology, not the clever low emissions craps manufacturers are peddling now.

    OP is talking about a modern, low emission, bluemotion Golf. Totally different proposition.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    Pretty sure the 2.2 only came in the first generation Movano from late 90s to 2004 or so, so it'd be unlikely to be fitted with the emissions control kit which is the source of most of the expensive problems which blight more modern diesel cars. The old Renault g series engines were based on legacy diesel technology, not the clever low emissions craps manufacturers are peddling now.


    I've just bought a new Citroen Relay with a Euro 5 engine so I imagine that has an emission control system on it but the road tax is the same as my old 2002 Movano ,£225 a year. I thought the road tax was based on emission now so any ideas why the last 13 years of technological advancement in engines has made no difference to my road tax?..:D
  • kev2009
    kev2009 Posts: 1,114 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hi,

    No car specialist here but just thought i'd add my comments on cars i've owned.

    First Diesel car I bought was a 2006 Ford Focus TDCi 1.6 LX, great car. I do around 7-8k miles a year and I bought this car as a ex demo with 17 miles on the clock. Was a great car, started every time, never broke down anywhere. Only towards the end before I was sold it, there was 1 issues with the clutch, sometimes i'd get in and the clutch would be down at the floor OR i'd press it, change gear and it wouldn't come back up, fix was put foot behind pedal and lift it and then it could be fine for several weeks before happened again. I took it into the garage, they said it was probably master cylinder or slave cylinder but as they couldn't replicate it was hard to diagnose so we left it. New owner has had the car now around 2 years and has had no issues. I had the car 5-6 years and I sold it when it had a little over 40k on it.

    Current car is a BMW 32d ED, again still low mileage per year and no issues so far.

    My driving tend to vary, it car be the odd trip maybe once a month to the local shops to going out for the day and driving for 1-3 hrs.

    Never had a problem with DPF or anything like that.

    Best thing is I only fill the car up once every 6-8 weeks :) that's what i like the most :)

    Previous car to a diesel was a Fiesta 1.25 freestyle and I've have to fill that up every 1.5 weeks, albeit it had a smaller tank.

    My dad has a Focus 1.6 Diesel, 2009 - he drives it to work which is less than 10 minutes every day, twice a day in some cases and has had the car from new and every year he puts it in the Fords for a service (he has there service plan) he never pays a penny, and he has no DPF issues or anything.

    So i personally wouldn't let the low mileage put you off of buying a diesel car.

    Kevin
  • BeenThroughItAll
    BeenThroughItAll Posts: 5,018 Forumite
    I've just bought a new Citroen Relay with a Euro 5 engine so I imagine that has an emission control system on it but the road tax is the same as my old 2002 Movano ,£225 a year. I thought the road tax was based on emission now so any ideas why the last 13 years of technological advancement in engines has made no difference to my road tax?..:D

    They are for cars, but I would expect your vans to fall under LGV rules:

    Light goods vehicles (TC39)

    Registered on or after 1 March 2001 and not over 3,500kg revenue weight (also known as maximum or gross vehicle weight).

    Vehicle 12 months rate 6 months rate
    Light goods vehicle £225.00 £123.75
  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,887 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    BeenThroughItAll it correct - vans are classed as Light Goods Vehicles, and like every other vehicle don't pay any road tax at all.

    They do pay VED at £225 per year though. ;)
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