Please help with NI issue

mikeb1son

When I did contact HR they said they can not see history.

Should I give them the Employer PAYE Reference number?

Could my tax be somehow be on someone else's account if that makes sense?

buglawton

The employer has to pay NI to govt based on your wages history and NI number. If employer says they cannot see history then they have no record of their own accounts & payments to govt. If this happened with my employer they would make big steps to investigate, their first stop being the accts dept or bookkeeper.

Something does not add up.

xylophone

It is just the letter A that's appeared after the first ever payslip for an NI number.

See http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/threads/re-payslips-p60.287377/

"Sounds to me like the A is for the NI table used which is correct and they are either hiding the NI number or simple font have it on their payroll system. A quick chat with payroll should clear it up."

I assume that "simple font" is a typo for "simply don't".

At all events, it seems clear that a mix up has occurred.

Presumably you have now advised payroll (again!) of your NI number.

However, you still need to clarify matters with HMRC.

You might say:

Dear Sir,

I understand from a telephone conversation I had with your representative on (date) that you hold no record of my current employment at (name of employer).

I started work at (name of employer) on (date) and I enclose a copy of my first pay advice.

I also enclose copies of my P60s for the tax years (dates).

I would be grateful if you would clarify matters as soon as possible and advise me that your records have been updated.

Yours faithfully,

M. Bison

mikeb1son

You have been an amazing help honestly its truly appreciated.

I will get this done asap.

Just a few questions:

1) Can a company be taking tax and NI without an NI number?

2) Also if a company had a wrong NI number would it be easy for HMRC to give a rebate and transfer the correct details to the correct NI?

petaldust_2

1) A legitimate employer will deduct Tax and NI, then pay it to HMRC.

2) Other employers can deduct those sums from employees but never send such payments to HMRC, Thus leaving the worker without a compliance record and eventually without a pension or qualification for other benefits.

3) It is extremely important to sort this! Are your colleagues in the same situation? If so someone needs to act soon.

mikeb1son

Thanks again very helpful

It does seem to be only my NI they have messed up not others.

Hopefully HRMC will understand it wasn't my error and are actually alot more helpful then the phone conversations I have had.

xylophone

Let us know how it pans out.

petaldust_2

If it's a genuine error by a genuine employer then the employer should attempt to correct this, depending on which tax year is involved. Without the correct info HMRC are unlikely to be interested.

Be careful! Opening a"can of worms" if your employer is dodgy can have "uncomfortable repercussions"8

Good luck

mikeb1son

Thanks to all of you , again very much appreciated.

Im 90 something percent sure it is a genuine error by the way

I may have asked this before, but just to clarify:
1)Should I tell HR I am going to HMRC?
2)Should I go straight to HRMC without telling HR?
3)Or tell HR to contact HMRC and fix this error? (Unlikely but any feedback is good)

Is it worth me telling HR what happened or can they somehow take offence etc and try flip it back and say its my fault?

Sorry if any questions sound silly I'm a novice but I will get there one day!

xylophone

You indicated in a previous post that an enquiry of HR produced only the statement that "they couldn't see your history".

Under the circumstances, write to HMRC as suggested earlier?