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Cashback from vendor - legal?

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Hi everyone,

just a quick question please. I have around £20,000 available as a deposit and I have found a house I like, which I think I can pick up for roughly £150,000. The issue is that it needs a little work doing on it.

The house was originally valued at £160,000, I was wondering if I was to offer £155,000 is there any legal way I could agree on this sale price and getting £5,000 back from the vendor (if they agree?). That way I can use the £5k on the bits that need doing on the house. In all honesty agreeing to a lower amount as the purchase price (say £145000) doesnt really help as all that does is reduce my mortgage repayments, I'd rather pay the extra £30 or so a month for the higher purchase price and use the extra £5k on the house.

I've seen things like vendor-gifted/paid deposits before which gave me the idea, just wondered if it was legal or classed as a type of mortgage fraud or if I would be better forgetting the idea quickly!

Thanks!

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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    You'd end up paying more stamp duty. If the house is only really worth £155,000 you may also have problems borrowing as if the house is worth £160,000.

    Finally, what happens if the vendor simply doesn't pay you the £5,000?
  • rosie383
    rosie383 Posts: 4,981 Forumite
    And work out how much extra interest you will pay on that 'extra bit' over the life of a 25 year mortgage! It may be an extra £30 now, but what happens when interest rates rise? If the house is 'liveable' in its current state, then I'd think you would be better off tightening your belt as much as possible and doing the jobs as and when you can afford them.

    Save a bit of extra money on the purchase by sourcing your own surveyor/conveyancer/mortgage broker etc.
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  • betmunch
    betmunch Posts: 3,126 Forumite
    Vendor gifted deposits are perfectly legal and above board.

    The difficulty is finding a lender that will accept it. Its been so long since I was asked I honestly couldnt tell you if there are any still doing it, I suspect not.

    Speak to your broker to find out if its doable or not.

    Having said that. If youre buying at £150,000 Just put down £15,000 of your £20,000 deposit. That wont change the interest rate and you will still have £5,000 left for the work
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • OK thanks everyone, looks like its not the best option. Thanks again, I'll let you know how I get on.
  • Landofwood
    Landofwood Posts: 765 Forumite
    I don't get it. If the vendor is going to give you back £5k, why don't you just pay £150k in the first place?
  • martinsurrey
    martinsurrey Posts: 3,368 Forumite
    Landofwood wrote: »
    I don't get it. If the vendor is going to give you back £5k, why don't you just pay £150k in the first place?

    10% deposit on £150k = 15k cash spent upfront

    10% deposit on £155 - £5k cash back = £10.5k spent upfront. Which is why lenders dont like them and very few accept them
  • Landofwood
    Landofwood Posts: 765 Forumite
    10% deposit on £150k = 15k cash spent upfront

    10% deposit on £155 - £5k cash back = £10.5k spent upfront. Which is why lenders dont like them and very few accept them

    Got it. Thanks.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,272 Forumite
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    Unless this transaction involves a builder, landlord & tenant, or close relatives, no lender currently accepts "vendor gifted deposit" business.

    Last lender out was Halifax in July 2012.
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