Obstacle to prevent Illegal parking

Dan-Dan

Neighbours that lob heavy stones about at 2am ? Not sure i would want to be to helpful to them with that behaviour

taxsaver

I'm sure some will strongly object to this - but - given that it looks like your land and the council probably think it is you could simply try fencing it all in and then after a number of years (if not formally challenged) it can actually become yours I believe. Naturally, I wouldn't suggest you spend much on the fencing in if you take this gamble, or that the fence you install can readily be moved to the correct boundary if needs be.

cepheus

Davesnave wrote: »

I'm reasonably proficient at reading, and what I gather here is that you've not created something on the ground to help people distinguish between between public land and your private space.

You seemed to be implying I was intending to build on council land, whereas I was suggesting they should put something on their own land, instead of me placing a border in the middle of the grass which have I've said will simply mean their half becomes neglected.

If people are illegally accessing council land to get to mine and parking over both, I think they have a duty of care to ensure this doesn't happen, so hopefully I can get them to place a larger stone or fixed barrier around the periphery. I've seen this done elsewhere in the area.

Coming back to the point of the question and board title, I think gardening centres sell large flat bottomed stones which are difficult to move. I may suggest the council use one of these. It's not perfect for mowing but wouldn't look too bad.

cepheus

taxsaver wrote: »

I'm sure some will strongly object to this - but - given that it looks like your land and the council probably think it is you could simply try fencing it all in and then after a number of years (if not formally challenged) it can actually become yours I believe. Naturally, I wouldn't suggest you spend much on the fencing in if you take this gamble, or that the fence you install can readily be moved to the correct boundary if needs be.

Thanks for a more constructive post, a one foot picket fence might be cheap and easy to erect. I guess that would soon disappear and put me on the wrong side of the law. I will suggest that to the council though, my guess it that they will just say yes so they avoid the expense of doing anything themselves, or the hassle of policing it. Looking around the area, people do all sorts of stuff which are probably against the deeds and nothing ever happens, its a free for all.

Davesnave

cepheus wrote: »

You seemed to be implying I was intending to build on council land, whereas I was suggesting they should put something on their own land....

So, when you said,"I could just hammer a stake in the middle of the lawn, but it would be neater and less obtrusive at the periphery which is technically their land." you didn't think the word "I" might confuse people?

If people are illegally accessing council land to get to mine and parking over both, I think they have a duty of care to ensure this doesn't happen, so hopefully I can get them to place a larger stone or fixed barrier around the periphery. I've seen this done elsewhere in the area.=

Fair enough, but as councils have many duties of care and shrinking budgets, what they may have done in the past isn't a guide to what they will do now.

If you think you can persuade your council to prioritise this, go ahead, but it is likely to take time, and meanwhile, you'll still have a problem.

I say this as someone with recent experience of liaising with local parish and county councils on a road-related defect with serious public safety implications. It took over 3 years of badgering, not because they were unaware or intransigent, but simply because it was on a priority list and had to rise to the top.

As I said before, good luck!

squeeks

Rather than stones, put in a flower border, small hedge or something similar along the edge of your property. You need something to establish the border if it is all grass. Some times I have seen people embed edging stones in the grass along borders at ground level - it wouldn't stop cars but would at least mark the boundary.

Davesnave

squeeks wrote: »

Rather than stones, put in a flower border, small hedge or something similar along the edge of your property.

Cepheus doesn't want the hassle of that. Basically, he wants the council to do it for him:

"they should put something on their own land, instead of me placing a border in the middle of the grass which have I've said will simply mean their half becomes neglected."

And as you can see, it seems he'd be unwilling him to mow the area immediately beyond his garden, once any border was established.

It's a lost cause.

13Kent

Maybe you could liaise with the council to 'rent' the extra bit of land for a nominal cost to add it to your land and then you could fence it all off. I once looked to buy a property at the end of a row in a cul-de-sac where the grassy area at the end of the cul-de-sac - a significant part of the garden - was rented from the council at a cost of something like £20 per year. The land in this case was fenced off with a 6ft wooden fence and completely enclosed as part of the garden of the property.

Floss

Don't suppose you've contacted your council what the options are, have you? They may say that they have a preferred method or deterrent which tey will place there - at a cost of course. Or they may say you can fence it.

If the outer verge is council property, then you need to contact them before casually placing lumps of stone there.