Milliband promises rent controls

buglawton

I know of situations where
a) Property is owned by partners/married who own in their different names
b) Where the landlord pays the council tax (let to a company or students)
c) Lead tenant pays council tax but there are sharers
d) Tenants who don't bother to move their electoral roll registration away from their parents

In Europe most countries have fairly strict address of residency registration rules that really are enforced, linked to a compulsory ID card. I can imagine the counting and tax raising working much better there. This also assists massively with immigration control and enforcement of maximum number of permitted people per address. Not in Blighty though, well, ID cards just wouldn't be British, eh?

Statistics don't you just love them?

Generali

buglawton wrote: »

Not in Blighty though, well, ID cards just wouldn't be British, eh?

My experience of ID cards is that they're just another way to harass black people.

I sat in a carriage on the RER as the only white man in a carriage full of Arabes and Noirs. I was the only person not asked for ID. When I asked the Gendarmes, who had come mob handed, why they didn't want to see my ID they looked at me as if I'd offered to show them my penis. "Why would we want to see your ID?" was the response.

buglawton

That demolished the argument for ID cards in the UK then.

padington

buglawton wrote: »

That demolished the argument for ID cards in the UK then.

You have to carry ID in Laos otherwise the police try to bribe you for not having what you didn't need by law. It's a horrible thing to have to think about always having to carry an important and hard to re- issue book or piece of plastic in your pocket, eespecialy on a hot day when you're in just shorts.

That's something UK citizens would never put up with but soon face regognition together with finger print technology will mean we are being scanned wherever we go and ID cards will come through the back door ...

... 'Beep beep beep' , access denied sir, it seems there is a small problem with your tax arrangements, can you step this way please' ...

antrobus

buglawton wrote: »

I know of situations where
a) Property is owned by partners/married who own in their different names
b) Where the landlord pays the council tax (let to a company or students)
c) Lead tenant pays council tax but there are sharers
d) Tenants who don't bother to move their electoral roll registration away from their parents....

As I said there are "perfectly reasonable explanations" as to why there might be a difference between those named on CT and LR records. (a) would be one of them; (b) and (c) would not; and neither would (d), because the electoral roll is something quite different. (Although no doubt HMRC look at that as well.)

buglawton wrote: »

...In Europe most countries have fairly strict address of residency registration rules that really are enforced, linked to a compulsory ID card. I can imagine the counting and tax raising working much better there. This also assists massively with immigration control and enforcement of maximum number of permitted people per address. Not in Blighty though, well, ID cards just wouldn't be British, eh?

Statistics don't you just love them?

Yes. They are a gateway to the truth.

For example; Tax lost as a % GDP:-

UK 4.86%
Germany 6.50%
France 6.69%
Spain 7.63%
Italy 11.64%

Hence 'tax raising' works much better in the UK than in comparable EU nations. ID cards notwithstanding.:)